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24-10-2012, 06:03 PM
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(24-10-2012 05:33 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  Reading this thread made me want to hit my head against a wall. I really can't be arsed writing some long post about what I think as I feel Stark summed up my main view in one sentence;

Stark Raving Wrote:As for the "forums response"....I think on many occasions the forum responds, as a whole, quite inappropriately.

I've been wanting to hit your head against a wall for a long time now, but this thread has nothing to do with that. Tongue

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24-10-2012, 06:06 PM
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(24-10-2012 06:03 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  I've been wanting to hit your head against a wall for a long time now, but this thread has nothing to do with that. Tongue

Just because you're jealous of my looks it doesn't mean you have to dream about bashing my face up.

Best and worst of Ferdinand .....
Best
Ferdinand: We don't really say 'theist' in Alabama. Here, you're either a Christian, or you're from Afghanistan and we fucking hate you.
Worst
Ferdinand: Everyone from British is so, like, fucking retarded.
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24-10-2012, 06:11 PM
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(24-10-2012 06:06 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  
(24-10-2012 06:03 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  I've been wanting to hit your head against a wall for a long time now, but this thread has nothing to do with that. Tongue

Just because you're jealous of my looks it doesn't mean you have to dream about bashing my face up.

Yes, because my lifelong dream is to look like FSM_Scot's ass. Big Grin

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24-10-2012, 06:17 PM
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(24-10-2012 06:11 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  Yes, because my lifelong dream is to look like FSM_Scot's ass. Big Grin

Better than what you look like now. Big Grin

Best and worst of Ferdinand .....
Best
Ferdinand: We don't really say 'theist' in Alabama. Here, you're either a Christian, or you're from Afghanistan and we fucking hate you.
Worst
Ferdinand: Everyone from British is so, like, fucking retarded.
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24-10-2012, 06:38 PM
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(24-10-2012 06:17 PM)Hughsie Wrote:  
(24-10-2012 06:11 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  Yes, because my lifelong dream is to look like FSM_Scot's ass. Big Grin

Better than what you look like now. Big Grin

No argument there.

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24-10-2012, 07:04 PM (This post was last modified: 24-10-2012 07:17 PM by GirlyMan.)
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(24-10-2012 07:03 AM)caffeinesoul Wrote:  Offtopic

I think this forum needs a thread where people can spit venom at each other for my entertainment. Also:




I am so much better at sportin' a fundoshi than this guy. I can do that dance. And even though I'm caucasian, I was raised a poor black child in PG County Maryland. ... Think I'm gonna reproduce this shit. ... Evil_monster

But dude's got some seriously white teeth, mine are yellow, can't reproduce that. Big Grin

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24-10-2012, 07:10 PM
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(24-10-2012 07:04 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  I am so much better at sportin' a fundoshi than this guy. I can do that dance. And even though I'm a caucasian, I was raised a poor black child in PG County Maryland. ... Think I'm gonna reproduce this shit. Evil_monster
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24-10-2012, 09:12 PM
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Just a heads up, it's gonna be a long one folks.

Quote:Nope. The only person who is responsible for your behavior is you. "it's on them how we behave"????? Really? I think you know that's not even remotely similar to the truth.

As for the "forums response"....I think on many occasions the forum responds, as a whole, quite inappropriately.

Come now son, basic science. Everything that has an action has an equal and opposite re-action.
I don't know what you're smoking (well.. I do.. but still) but let's keep this real here Stark. If someone comes on here bible bashing and throwing around verbal abuse then the forum is not going to act in a kind respectful manner in return.
It's like my year8 teacher use to always say "You have my respect, until you lose it".

Quote:1) If they are a Christian, I asked them 5 questions. The questions I ask are meant to probe their understanding and knowledge of their denomination. This also lets me know how much thought they have put into their Christianity. Moreover, it answers whether or not they are going to be honest when it comes to not knowing something. I use big words on purpose.

2) My questions are also meant to stimulate conversations - through this, I can gauge what type of person they are during a discussion. I can determine arrogance and pretentiousness, humility and intelligence; I can also determine - somewhat - what their intentions are.

3) I poke and prod a little further to see if I can passively push a few buttons. The intent of this is to see if I'm going to be able to engage in controversial topics in the future without this person flipping out on me.

This ain't trolling son.
Well, some people *cough*bemore and caffe*cough* would have you believe this is trolling, but calm your tits KC, you're far from "troll".

Quote: There is actually a fair amount of that going on here.

Exactly, we are only talking about a few people here. It's not like we never have theists that have rational (well.. you can't have a rational conversation with a theist.. better word might be civil) conversations with.

Quote:The drive-by preaching is just grating. Come on, post a Bible verse...add nothing to the conversation then leave...yeah, well they don't leave quickly enough.

Cha-ching.

Quote:For the ones that reappear over and over spewing the same crap...I get tense. If you watch you can see the ones that write the same no matter what name they are using. Some of these people (and I know not everyone has English as a primary language) are easily spotted because it appears they can't spell a damn thing, making them really look ignorant. They hit back over and over with their "we are all going to burn in hell" theme but don't have enough damn guts in their position/faith to answer a question or even try to explain what they are trying to say or why they believe what they do.

Exactly, trolls gonna troll.

Quote:I generally try to saw hello to new posters. Sometimes my spidey-senses immediately tell me to move on. A lot of times I find I am correct.

Yeah, when they learn that Seth doesn't post here they get out faster then homophobe in a daisy chain.

Quote: There are others that aren't defensive when asked questions but try to answer and explain why they think the way they do.

Whom we welcome with open arms. These are the people we want around, not the "I'm going to post 1 bible verse and never return" people.

Quote:As for the infighting - to your damn corners - Bemore***Muffs.

No thanks. I assume you are implying a boxing match. Mental illness associated with boxing due to repeat blows to the head is ridiculous. Because I value my brain not being bashed around in my head for nothing more then mindless entertainment I'm going to pass.

Quote:I haven't the authority to send anyone to the naughty chair.

Only Erx's mom has that authority.

Quote:My point still stands.

No it doesn't. Your picture was in relation to one person, it doesn't work for a group of people (of which you are included).

Quote:Hey, genius, mugging is anti-social behaviour.

Not if you do it with a friend.

Quote: Much like having a bunch of people who know each other immediately berate some 'outsider', while paying no attention or care to who the individual they're talking to is, outside of their theistic beliefs.

Son, this isn't Hello Kitty playground. This is an Atheist forum, if you come here and annoyance you're a theist, you're gonna get questions.

Quote:I see minimal effort made by the majority of members here, to socialize and get on with theists.

Because they make minimal effort. They discuss things we've discussed over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Quote:Thank you for your dedication to the cause of being the type of e-thug who has little-to-no constructive purpose within a community.

Oh come now. e-thug? Hardly. e-Robin Hood on the other hand... we might be getting a little closer.

Quote:Truly, you are gifted with the ability to read minds.

Are you slow? Yes, I just said this.

Quote:Are you also, by chance, omnipotent and all-knowing?

By chance? Well there is always a chance even if it's a ridiculously small number.
But technically, yes, by chance.

Quote:I wasn't just talking about people like The Theist. Did you miss that when you spewed the macho cliché: "If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen"?

Don't you be hating the cliche. Just because it's extremely overused by Mr Gordon Ramsey doesn't mean I shouldn't have the option of using it.

How about a little less focus on my cliche's I choose to use and the actual topic at hand eh?

Quote:The reason I wrote my post was to suggest promoting the integration of theists into the community, before asking them questions.

Son, this isn't Barbe Goes Camping, this an internet forum.
"If you can't handle the heat, stay the fuck out of the god damn kitchen nigga".

Quote:That goes for all theists, even ones like The Theist.

So "special treatment" for theists?
You see Caffe, at least I treat everyone equally and don't single out a certain sub-section within society for "special treatment". I guess I'm just morally a better person then you.

Quote:I can't believe you actually wrote that.

What's so hard to believe? I wrote it, it's right there on your computer screen.
HuhHuh

Quote:Are you ill?

You'll have to be more specific.

Quote:They're responsible for our actions? Are you insinuating that we have no self control?

Ahhh no I'm not. Are you really that stupid to think I was insinuating that?

Quote:Verbal abuse may (in your mind) justify an abusive response

Witty or abusive. I'm not very good at the prior, we have DLJ for that, so the later is often chosen.
What's your point?

Quote:Yeah, that's the attitude I think we need to change.

Ha! Good luck with that son. They tried to change me saying nigger/nigga..
Needless to say it wasn't as successful as they'd've hoped.

Quote:Which of the following options do you think is going to help lead to a better discussion?

2 obviously. Said theist then leaves and someone better comes along.

Quote:What does the Vatican's stance on sex have to do with the existence or non-existence of a deity, or reason for belief in either position. I've never seen an "every day" Christian say, "the Vatican promotes abstinence-only education, therefore God". We're talking about theists who push theism, not theists who push abstinence-only education.

God damn, must I explain out everything I say letter by letter every single time I most a metaphor?

I'm not explaining this, you think get a pen and paper and figure it out for yourself.

Quote:Perhaps I missed the point.

Yip, just like the both quote. Missed the boat entirely.

Quote:You convey this attitude that theists and atheists shouldn't put any effort into being social, simply because it's easy for the theist to walk away.

I never said that TTA shouldn't be social. If a theist comes here and is polite and nice etc.. then by all means befirend the shit out of him.
But if he comes here and bible bashes and throws around verbal abuse then that isn't someone that we want in our circle.
It's not a hard concept to grasp, seriously.

Quote:If you don't like it, walk away (or, "block me")" isn't the attitude to take if you want to build a community which encourages establishing a positive relationship between theists and atheists.

Son, again, this isn't Hello Kitty playground.
Allow me to give you some life advice:
Some people are nice. Some people are cunts.
We don't want the later.

"But earmuffs you're being a cunt blah blah"

I'm a cunt to cunts. I'm not a cunt to nice people.
Cunts are cunts to everyone.
There is a difference. Learn it.

Quote: I dunno if you realise this, but relationships are built on compromise

It's a internet forum, not a fucking marriage!!
It's a circle of 'friends'. If you don't fit in, you don't fit in.

The circle shouldn't have to change to suit the needs of the new kid.
If the new kid is a cunt, then either he changes or he doesn't fit in and goes away.

I'm blown away by how hard this concept is for people to grasp. How is it that someone with SPD knows more about how groups of friends work then someone who wants to be MrFriend to everyone left right and center?

Quote:(a concept, I imagine, that makes you shudder by it's very mention, Mr Nigga McNiggs).

Which is why I have no interest in getting married.

Quote:Please, do let me know if I'm misinterpreting something here.

Oh don't worry, I will.

Quote:We're talking about the people who come here to troll? What? Exclusively, that's who we're talking about? No shit! Since when? I don't recall talking exclusively about the trolls when, in response to Bemore, I wrote, "It's easy to assume these theists are all trolls when we know nothing about them and have no opportunity to socialize with them."

I don't know what you were getting at with this?

Quote:so that we can form a friendly relationship

Sorry, BRB, I just threw up in my mouth.

Quote:You seem to be missing that point. The only point I've been trying to make.

No I get it. And I'm saying that they can if they want.
They come here saying they're theists. We ask them questions as to why, because this is a ATHEIST forum, not a "get to know you before we dive into the actual theme of the forum forum". If they wanted to become BFF then resulting to bible bashing and verbal abuse is not helping their case.

Not every theist is here to join your little circle jerk of friends.

Quote:A theist posts a thread that explains their reasons for belief. X number of atheists post rebuttals. The theist posts a response, with abusive language. Which of the following options do you think is going to help lead to a better discussion?

Same answer as before. They came here with intent on having a religious conversation, they got it, they didn't like it so resulted to verbal abuse thus they're a cunt thus tell them to fuck off.

If they wanted to be friends verbal abuse sure as fuck ain't the way to do that. You don't need to be a social genius to work that one out...

Quote:If the theist isn't a troll, they won't have a reason to be insulting

EXACTLY, it comes back to them.

Simple as pie.

Quote:They will also be less inclined to accept criticism, when you present it amongst a torrent of insults.

If it's at the point of insults then it's clear that they wont accept criticism period.

Quote:Now you do, hopefully.

Yes, non-existent problems.


You think everyone can be friends and like totally BFF. News flash sister, aint gonna happen.

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24-10-2012, 10:07 PM
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Wow. I... Wow.

Sad. So very sad.

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24-10-2012, 10:12 PM
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(24-10-2012 10:07 PM)lucradis Wrote:  Wow. I... Wow.

Sad. So very sad.

Oh, I see you've seen Hughsie's face too.

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