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19-07-2016, 07:58 AM
RE: Truck Control
(19-07-2016 07:54 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  
(19-07-2016 07:38 AM)Chas Wrote:  Many people buy firearms for the express purpose of shooting sports.

I own 2 shotguns that are purpose-built for trap shooting.

There are rifles purpose-built for biathlon or other target sports.

"Many" =/= "How many". Just sayin'.

If you feel the urge to find statistics on this, go right ahead.

The implication of your question was that there aren't many, but you are wrong and would know that if you had even tried to find out.

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19-07-2016, 07:59 AM
RE: Truck Control
There is a reason they call the Boston Marathon Bombing a bombing and not a Pressure Cookering.

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19-07-2016, 08:06 AM
RE: Truck Control
(19-07-2016 07:59 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  There is a reason they call the Boston Marathon Bombing a bombing and not a Pressure Cookering.

The weapon is the totality of the parts. A pressure-cooker bomb is not the same as a car or truck bomb.

The pressure cooker was most certainly part of the weapon.

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19-07-2016, 08:08 AM
RE: Truck Control
(19-07-2016 07:51 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  
(19-07-2016 04:40 AM)Chas Wrote:  It's a distinction without a difference.

A stationary truck won't do any damage, but a moving one will.
So the weapon in Nice wasn't the truck, it was the motion. Consider

No it was the impact from the truck that killed them. The truck was the weapon.
In a bombing, the explosives are the weapon.

If there was no truck in a truck bomb, people would still get hurt, you still have a weapon. If there was no bomb in a truck bomb, no one would get hurt, you wouldn't have a weapon unless someone got in the truck and used it as a weapon.

(19-07-2016 04:52 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  If the vehicle in a car bomb isn't the weapon ---

Then a gun isn't a weapon either..... It's the gunpowder in the cartridge that's the weapon....

Maybe we should just outlaw oxygen -- and that'd cure the problem................................

No oxidation - no ka-boom..... Problem solved huh???

The fucking vehicle isn't required for a bomb to work, like gunpowder is required for a gun to work.

You obviously haven't much experience blowing shit up.

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I have.

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I grew up in a time where all you had to do was sign for it - and you could buy all the dynamite, fuse and blasting caps your heart desired. As a kid, I played with dynamite the way most kids today play with bubble wrap.................
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I've also got a friend who's a powder monkey -- he does demolitions on the side...... I've been along on more than one silo being brought down, or one pond being created..............

An explosive isn't shit -- if it doesn't move something........ If you take 100 lbs of dynamite and suspend it from a cable -- you'd be surprised how close you can be to it without getting hurt. You'll go deaf - probably -- and the air blast will knock you down -- but you can be a shitload closer than you'd possibly believe..... Go online and research guys who "blow themselves up in a box"..... It's an old county fair trick --- and they really do blow themselves up -- without getting hurt......

If you don't have shrapnel - you don't have a bomb...... You have a bigassed firecracker.

And -- wrapping 30 lbs of nails around it helps --- but in a car bomb - it's the 3000 lbs of flying steel, glass, rubber and plastic flying through the air at 5 times the speed of sound that does the damage....

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19-07-2016, 08:20 AM
RE: Truck Control
(19-07-2016 08:06 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(19-07-2016 07:59 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  There is a reason they call the Boston Marathon Bombing a bombing and not a Pressure Cookering.

The weapon is the totality of the parts. A pressure-cooker bomb is not the same as a car or truck bomb.

The pressure cooker was most certainly part of the weapon.

Part of the weapon but not THE weapon. If someone killed with an ak-47 with a scope attached. They wouldn't name the weapon as a scoped ak-47. They would just name the weapon as an ak-47 and would mention the scope as apart of it but the weapon would still just be an ak-47.

Whatever the bomb is in is apart of the bomb but the bomb is still the weapon. People don't say they were killed by pressure cookers or trucks. They say they were killed by a bomb.

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19-07-2016, 10:59 AM
RE: Truck Control
(19-07-2016 08:20 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  
(19-07-2016 08:06 AM)Chas Wrote:  The weapon is the totality of the parts. A pressure-cooker bomb is not the same as a car or truck bomb.

The pressure cooker was most certainly part of the weapon.

Part of the weapon but not THE weapon. If someone killed with an ak-47 with a scope attached. They wouldn't name the weapon as a scoped ak-47. They would just name the weapon as an ak-47 and would mention the scope as apart of it but the weapon would still just be an ak-47.

Yes,
the rifle probably would be referred to as a 'scoped AK-47'.
The scope would be an important element allowing longer-range accuracy.

Quote:Whatever the bomb is in is apart a part of the bomb but the bomb is still the weapon. People don't say they were killed by pressure cookers or trucks. They say they were killed by a bomb.

Look up the Boston news stories. The references are largely to 'pressure-cooker bombs'.

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19-07-2016, 11:55 AM
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(16-07-2016 03:39 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  You were just being a shitstain douchebag like you always are that's all.

Personal attack.

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19-07-2016, 12:01 PM
RE: Truck Control
(19-07-2016 08:06 AM)Chas Wrote:  A pressure-cooker bomb is not the same as a car or truck bomb.

True, but standing close enough, one would be hard pressed to discern any difference at T minus one.

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19-07-2016, 12:35 PM
RE: Truck Control
(19-07-2016 08:20 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  
(19-07-2016 08:06 AM)Chas Wrote:  The weapon is the totality of the parts. A pressure-cooker bomb is not the same as a car or truck bomb.

The pressure cooker was most certainly part of the weapon.

Part of the weapon but not THE weapon. If someone killed with an ak-47 with a scope attached. They wouldn't name the weapon as a scoped ak-47. They would just name the weapon as an ak-47 and would mention the scope as apart of it but the weapon would still just be an ak-47.

Whatever the bomb is in is apart of the bomb but the bomb is still the weapon. People don't say they were killed by pressure cookers or trucks. They say they were killed by a bomb.

If you claim the truck is a separate component of a bomb -and only a delivery system - and therefore needs no regulation ----


Then a gun is just a delivery system for a bullet -- and therefore should also be exempt from any regulation........


Consistency son.....

You can't have it both ways....


Pick one...

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19-07-2016, 12:48 PM
RE: Truck Control
(19-07-2016 12:35 PM)onlinebiker Wrote:  
(19-07-2016 08:20 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  Part of the weapon but not THE weapon. If someone killed with an ak-47 with a scope attached. They wouldn't name the weapon as a scoped ak-47. They would just name the weapon as an ak-47 and would mention the scope as apart of it but the weapon would still just be an ak-47.

Whatever the bomb is in is apart of the bomb but the bomb is still the weapon. People don't say they were killed by pressure cookers or trucks. They say they were killed by a bomb.

If you claim the truck is a separate component of a bomb -and only a delivery system - and therefore needs no regulation ----


Then a gun is just a delivery system for a bullet -- and therefore should also be exempt from any regulation........


Consistency son.....

You can't have it both ways....


Pick one...

Just playing devils' advocate here -- a bomb is lethal with or without the truck. Bullets, not so much. I can throw bullets at you all day, and all it will do is annoy you. In order to do any real harm, I need the gun.

Of course, the gun isn't much of a threat without the bullets, either.
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