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12-03-2016, 01:16 AM
RE: Trump Rally goes Thunderdome
(12-03-2016 12:51 AM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(12-03-2016 12:30 AM)Alla Wrote:  I don't support Trump and he makes me angry but I support freedom of speech.
If left has power America is doomed

You do understand that freedom of speech belongs to both sides?

Not just the ones you want to hear.

We also have the right to assemble to let our voices known and heard. It's our most cherished freedom.
yes, I do. To protest peacefully against Trump is American. I support this. To stop him to speak and to deny me the right to hear his offensive speech is un-American. It is Soviet Union.
Ben Shapiro also was not allowed to speak. Free speech is under attack by the left

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12-03-2016, 01:20 AM
RE: Trump Rally goes Thunderdome
(12-03-2016 01:16 AM)Alla Wrote:  
(12-03-2016 12:51 AM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  You do understand that freedom of speech belongs to both sides?

Not just the ones you want to hear.

We also have the right to assemble to let our voices known and heard. It's our most cherished freedom.

yes, I do. To protest peacefully against Trump is American. I support this. To stop him to speak and to deny me the right to hear his offensive speech is un-American. It is Soviet Union.
Ben Shapiro also was not allowed to speak. Free speech is under attack by the left

I know many here will disagree with me on this point, but if it means the David Duke's of a country don't get to speak, I must admit to finding myself leaning toward the 'pro Soviets' side for once...

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12-03-2016, 01:35 AM
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(12-03-2016 12:51 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  These kinda wrap in each other so I thought I may as well address them both at once; I can understand the perspective, but I must admit that I'm not sure I find it a very valid concern given that what the protesters are doing is perfectly within their rights to do as part of their freedom of expression, just as much Trump is within his rights to spew whatever populist vitriol he wants. It is not a violation of freedom of speech to ask a doomsayer preacher to stop screaming on the sidewalk.
Did he speak? Did I have a chance to hear him? Did thousands who got tickets hear him?
To ask a doomsayer preacher TO STOP to SPEAK to those(thousands) who WANT TO HEAR him is Soviet Union(leftist) MENTALITY not American.
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As a non-american, I am forced to ask precisely what 'unamerican' means.
To deny me the right to hear what Trump was going to say today.
To deny Trump to speak his stupid and offensive things.
The same happened to Ben Shapiro. Socialists(left) denied him his right to speak.

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12-03-2016, 01:38 AM
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(12-03-2016 01:20 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(12-03-2016 01:16 AM)Alla Wrote:  yes, I do. To protest peacefully against Trump is American. I support this. To stop him to speak and to deny me the right to hear his offensive speech is un-American. It is Soviet Union.
Ben Shapiro also was not allowed to speak. Free speech is under attack by the left

I know many here will disagree with me on this point, but if it means the David Duke's of a country don't get to speak, I must admit to finding myself leaning toward the 'pro Soviets' side for once...

What's really funny is that if Trump is elected president, he's so xenophobic, he'll probably revoke her citizenship and deport her -- along with millions of others.

And the only people standing up against it,would be the un-American left. Laugh out load


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12-03-2016, 01:40 AM
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(12-03-2016 01:20 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(12-03-2016 01:16 AM)Alla Wrote:  yes, I do. To protest peacefully against Trump is American. I support this. To stop him to speak and to deny me the right to hear his offensive speech is un-American. It is Soviet Union.
Ben Shapiro also was not allowed to speak. Free speech is under attack by the left

I know many here will disagree with me on this point, but if it means the David Duke's of a country don't get to speak, I must admit to finding myself leaning toward the 'pro Soviets' side for once...
I respect your opinion, but this is why I LOVE America and not Soviet Union. Even S.Duke can speak.
Socialists(left) are enemies of free speech. So, I am not surprised that you are leaning towards pro Soviet's side for once.

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12-03-2016, 01:42 AM (This post was last modified: 12-03-2016 01:50 AM by Free Thought.)
RE: Trump Rally goes Thunderdome
(12-03-2016 01:35 AM)Alla Wrote:  To deny me the right to hear what Trump was going to say today.
To deny Trump to speak his stupid and offensive things.
The same happened to Ben Shapiro. Socialists(left) denied him his right to speak.

You are addressing what is 'un-american', right?

So all those are unamerican, but attempting to deny or diminish the rights of people to tell others to piss off and vomit their bigotry elsewhere is not?

Out of curiosity, could you expand your definition further, out of this sole context, so that we may establish a more functional definition for the term?

(12-03-2016 01:40 AM)Alla Wrote:  
(12-03-2016 01:20 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  I know many here will disagree with me on this point, but if it means the David Duke's of a country don't get to speak, I must admit to finding myself leaning toward the 'pro Soviets' side for once...

I respect your opinion, but this is why I LOVE America and not Soviet Union. Even S.Duke can speak.
Socialists(left) are enemies of free speech. So, I am not surprised that you are leaning towards pro Soviet's side for once.

Only after posting did I see this reply, so...

First, pointless pedantry, it ought to be 'the Soviet Union', America is fine, though.

Secondly, I would not describe myself as a socialist. My politics are nearly refined enough for an affirmative label, and it is poor form in the extreme to equate the entire Left side of the political spectre to socialists. I can assure you that a great number would not place themselves under such a banner.
... Especially when the US political spectrum is shifted so far Right that centrists in the rest of the West are seen as Left wing.

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12-03-2016, 01:45 AM
RE: Trump Rally goes Thunderdome
(12-03-2016 01:38 AM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(12-03-2016 01:20 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  I know many here will disagree with me on this point, but if it means the David Duke's of a country don't get to speak, I must admit to finding myself leaning toward the 'pro Soviets' side for once...

What's really funny is that if Trump is elected president, he's so xenophobic, he'll probably revoke her citizenship and deport her -- along with millions of others.

And the only people standing up against it,would be the un-American left. Laugh out load
This is why I don't want him to be a president of this wonderful country. I am anti-Trump.
But I am pro-Constitution, pro-first Amendment before I am anti-Trump.
He couldn't speak today. I couldn't hear his hateful speech.

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12-03-2016, 01:46 AM
RE: Trump Rally goes Thunderdome
(12-03-2016 01:40 AM)Alla Wrote:  
(12-03-2016 01:20 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  I know many here will disagree with me on this point, but if it means the David Duke's of a country don't get to speak, I must admit to finding myself leaning toward the 'pro Soviets' side for once...
I respect your opinion, but this is why I LOVE America and not Soviet Union. Even S.Duke can speak.
Socialists(left) are enemies of free speech. So, I am not surprised that you are leaning towards pro Soviet's side for once.

So David duke a white supremacist, a member of KKK has rights but the "left" doesn't? Good to know.

Do you even think before you write shit?


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12-03-2016, 01:50 AM
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(12-03-2016 01:01 AM)Stevil Wrote:  
(12-03-2016 12:51 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  As a non-american, I am forced to ask precisely what 'unamerican' means.
Yes, I'm wondering if it is a good thing or a bad thing to be un-American.
for Americans it is a bad thing. For non-Americans - I don't care

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12-03-2016, 01:51 AM
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(12-03-2016 01:46 AM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(12-03-2016 01:40 AM)Alla Wrote:  I respect your opinion, but this is why I LOVE America and not Soviet Union. Even S.Duke can speak.
Socialists(left) are enemies of free speech. So, I am not surprised that you are leaning towards pro Soviet's side for once.

So David duke a white supremacist, a member of KKK has rights but the "left" doesn't? Good to know.
did I say that the left doesn't have the right? No, I didn't. it would be un-American

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