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29-08-2017, 06:01 AM
Trump administration opens up police departments to get military gear
The Trump administration has rescinded the Obama ban on civilian police departments from getting surplus military gear including tracked and armored vehicles and grenade launchers.

I dunno.


I can see them having the good military grade body armor, but do they really need a tank???

I suppose it's the thought of posse comitatus that gets me - in that the government is not allowed to use the army on our on population. At some point, when you stick enough military hardware on a cop, he starts to look like a soldier.......

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29-08-2017, 06:15 AM
RE: Trump administration opens up police departments to get military gear
It's been going on for a long time around here.
People. Wake the fuck up.
Take a lesson from what we've learned about the surveillance programs that are being put in place.
Militarizing of police forces. Assault on people's rights. The emboldening of hate groups who feel (correctly in my opinion that they have a friend in the white house)
The ongoing demonizing of the press. A justice system that demonizes the poor and minorities.
What more does it take?
They are lining up to take over. Or "make America great again"
And I'm thinking that Atheists are pretty damn likely to be on the shit list.

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29-08-2017, 06:26 AM
RE: Trump administration opens up police departments to get military gear
When I was working for the Deserter Apprehension Program there were times when a armored vehicle was handy. Not sure about a tracked vehicle.
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29-08-2017, 06:28 AM
RE: Trump administration opens up police departments to get military gear
Try using real words instead of catchphrases and tired platitudes eh?

If somebody has read what you post, word for word ad nauseum all over the Internet they will likely ignore any valid points you may have to make.


" people, wake up" translates to " you can quit listening now"


Intent - constructive criticism, not a slam.

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29-08-2017, 06:30 AM
RE: Trump administration opens up police departments to get military gear
(29-08-2017 06:28 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  Try using real words instead of catchphrases and tired platitudes eh?

If somebody has read what you post, word for word ad nauseum all over the Internet they will likely ignore any valid points you may have to make.


" people, wake up" translates to " you can quit listening now"


Intent - constructive criticism, not a slam.

They can quit listening any time they like
I'm pretty sure they will.
If the current state of affairs isn't enough produce have a "holy shit" moment, then whatever somebody writes on some web forum isn't likely to penetrate.

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29-08-2017, 06:36 AM
RE: Trump administration opens up police departments to get military gear
(29-08-2017 06:30 AM)BikerDude Wrote:  
(29-08-2017 06:28 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  Try using real words instead of catchphrases and tired platitudes eh?

If somebody has read what you post, word for word ad nauseum all over the Internet they will likely ignore any valid points you may have to make.


" people, wake up" translates to " you can quit listening now"


Intent - constructive criticism, not a slam.

They can quit listening any time they like
I'm pretty sure they will.
If the current state of affairs isn't enough produce have a "holy shit" moment, then whatever somebody writes on some web forum isn't likely to penetrate.

You'd be surprised.

People can be won over, or if not, at least influenced to a degree by reason and thought out dialogue.

Less so, with parroted slogans.

People may not be the sharpest, but they're pretty good at recognising what they have not seen before.

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29-08-2017, 06:53 AM
RE: Trump administration opens up police departments to get military gear
(29-08-2017 06:36 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  
(29-08-2017 06:30 AM)BikerDude Wrote:  They can quit listening any time they like
I'm pretty sure they will.
If the current state of affairs isn't enough produce have a "holy shit" moment, then whatever somebody writes on some web forum isn't likely to penetrate.

You'd be surprised.

People can be won over, or if not, at least influenced to a degree by reason and thought out dialogue.

Less so, with parroted slogans.

People may not be the sharpest, but they're pretty good at recognising what they have not seen before.

I couldn't give a flying fuck about winning anybody over.

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29-08-2017, 06:55 AM
RE: Trump administration opens up police departments to get military gear
(29-08-2017 06:53 AM)BikerDude Wrote:  
(29-08-2017 06:36 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  You'd be surprised.

People can be won over, or if not, at least influenced to a degree by reason and thought out dialogue.

Less so, with parroted slogans.

People may not be the sharpest, but they're pretty good at recognising what they have not seen before.

I couldn't give a flying fuck about winning anybody over.

Noted

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29-08-2017, 06:59 AM
RE: Trump administration opens up police departments to get military gear
(29-08-2017 06:01 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  The Trump administration has rescinded the Obama ban on civilian police departments from getting surplus military gear including tracked and armored vehicles and grenade launchers.

I dunno.


I can see them having the good military grade body armor, but do they really need a tank???

I suppose it's the thought of posse comitatus that gets me - in that the government is not allowed to use the army on our on population. At some point, when you stick enough military hardware on a cop, he starts to look like a soldier.......

I have said it before - he wants a police state.

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29-08-2017, 07:02 AM
RE: Trump administration opens up police departments to get military gear
(29-08-2017 06:59 AM)Dom Wrote:  
(29-08-2017 06:01 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  The Trump administration has rescinded the Obama ban on civilian police departments from getting surplus military gear including tracked and armored vehicles and grenade launchers.

I dunno.


I can see them having the good military grade body armor, but do they really need a tank???

I suppose it's the thought of posse comitatus that gets me - in that the government is not allowed to use the army on our on population. At some point, when you stick enough military hardware on a cop, he starts to look like a soldier.......

I have said it before - he wants a police state.

I think the lesson is that he is far from alone on this.
It's an idea that clearly has a LOT of traction.
Time will tell but he is not acting nervous.
Pardoning Arpaeo (spelling?) was a giant middle finger to his detractors.
And a worried man doesn't do that.

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