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26-07-2017, 10:17 AM
RE: Trump bans transgender from military
(26-07-2017 10:07 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Knew this was coming. Don't ask don't tell might make a comeback as well. Veterans don't want them in the military. There's a reason why vets chose Trump over Clinton 2 to 1. The military was turning into a joke. Time to reverse the pansy ass feel good Obama era.

LDH, fuck you. If the American military is a joke, then it's because of people like you. You're a piece of shit. LGBTQ people are not a joke, nor is it "pansy ass feel good" policy to allow us to openly serve.
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26-07-2017, 10:21 AM
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(26-07-2017 10:14 AM)Robvalue Wrote:  God damn, this is appalling. But I'm not surprised. He's too stupid to realise what he's doing. I bet he couldn't even tell you what a transgender person is.

I'm embarressed to be an American, and I'm a Brit.

I think he has completely given up on earning the respect of 2/3 of the American people and 99% of the developed world and has decided to do everything he can to keep the undying love and respect of his felchers like LDH which make up 1/3 of the American population.

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26-07-2017, 10:25 AM
RE: Trump bans transgender from military
(26-07-2017 10:17 AM)Emma Wrote:  
(26-07-2017 10:07 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Knew this was coming. Don't ask don't tell might make a comeback as well. Veterans don't want them in the military. There's a reason why vets chose Trump over Clinton 2 to 1. The military was turning into a joke. Time to reverse the pansy ass feel good Obama era.

LDH, fuck you. If the American military is a joke, then it's because of people like you. You're a piece of shit. LGBTQ people are not a joke, nor is it "pansy ass feel good" policy to allow us to openly serve.

Cool story. But your feelings on this matter will not change the facts. LGBTQ people are a distraction. The military is not a fucking game. People die. Unit cohesion is very important. The majority of people that serve in the U.S Military are right leaning independents and republicans. I hope he cancels the women in combat rules too.

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26-07-2017, 10:27 AM (This post was last modified: 26-07-2017 10:31 AM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Trump bans transgender from military
(26-07-2017 10:07 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Knew this was coming. Don't ask don't tell might make a comeback as well. Veterans don't want them in the military. There's a reason why vets chose Trump over Clinton 2 to 1. The military was turning into a joke. Time to reverse the pansy ass feel good Obama era.

Veterans are not IN the military, so it will ultimately rest with those IN the military to decide, not OLD people with ancient prejudices. Your bigoted, discriminatory ancient attitudes are well known here. Gays in the marines could take you and your pansy ass down in about 10 seconds. Hilarious you probably actually think you're a patriot, even though your attitudes are aginst what America stands for, in 2017. Don't-Ask-Don't-Tell is unconstitutional, and this may be stuck down at some point also. We all know you want to turn the clock back to 1950, Dork Lord. Not ever gonna happen. The world has moved on, and left you ancient fossils far behind.

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26-07-2017, 10:36 AM
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(26-07-2017 07:58 AM)Emma Wrote:  It's a fucking phantom issue, and they are pushing this while also trying to take away health care for millions of people.

This.

There is the point of this. He's going to fuck people on healthcare but hey! Tranny's are out of the military. That's going to be the focus, too.

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26-07-2017, 10:37 AM
RE: Trump bans transgender from military
(26-07-2017 10:27 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(26-07-2017 10:07 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Knew this was coming. Don't ask don't tell might make a comeback as well. Veterans don't want them in the military. There's a reason why vets chose Trump over Clinton 2 to 1. The military was turning into a joke. Time to reverse the pansy ass feel good Obama era.

Veterans are not IN the military, so it will ultimately rest with those IN the military to decide, not OLD people with ancient prejudices. Your bigoted, discriminatory ancient attitudes are well known here. Gays in the marines could take you and your pansy ass down in about 10 seconds. Hilarious you probably actually think you're a patriot, even though your attitudes are aginst what America stands for, in 2017. Don't-Ask-Don't-Tell is unconstitutional, and this may be stuck down at some point also. We all know you want to turn the clock back to 1950, Dork Lord. Not ever gonna happen. The world has moved on, and left you ancient fossils far behind.

Trump is president. The president is commander in chief. The commander in chief made a decision.

Deal with it.

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26-07-2017, 10:39 AM
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Does this mean they have to disband the Navy?

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26-07-2017, 10:43 AM
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(26-07-2017 10:39 AM)yakherder Wrote:  Does this mean they have to disband the Navy?

Submarine tour - 150 men go down and 6 months later 75 couples come back up.

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26-07-2017, 10:45 AM
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If this gets taken to court (and it's almost certain it will before the end if Trump presidency), they will probably loose badly.

The US military is a massive employer. There is almost a million person at its employ and is considered an excellent stepping stone for the careers of people from poor areas. It can hardly suffer from such kind of discrimination.

The reason mentioned are also particularly stupid. Trans people aren't very numerous so even if every single one of those who served in the army in various capacity all required a sex change, the army budget wouldn't be affected in any significant manner. It costs between 10 to 50 thousand dollars per person for sex change and there would be around 10,000 trans in the US army if it respect the proportion in the general population. In total, that would represent, conservatively, a spending of 500 000 000 dollars, the price of three or four F-22 fighter jet or 0.08% of the yearly military budget in the US.

In other words, that one bomb run in Syria that had absolutely no effect costed more than that.

Those who would argue that it would disrupt in such a profound and permanent way unit cohesion and the military discipline of combat units where trans could serve are underestimating severely the capacity of the average person to get over details like the physical appearance of a person to work properly with them. If they can't I would see the problem in this bigotry more than in of the trans soldier.

I expect people who are to be deployed and operate in various foreign countries, frequently working in close cohesion with other nations, including some who share very little in common in terms of values, habits and appearance to have enough professionalism and open minded enough to adapt to such such kind of difference quickly.

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26-07-2017, 10:46 AM
RE: Trump bans transgender from military
(26-07-2017 10:27 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(26-07-2017 10:07 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Knew this was coming. Don't ask don't tell might make a comeback as well. Veterans don't want them in the military. There's a reason why vets chose Trump over Clinton 2 to 1. The military was turning into a joke. Time to reverse the pansy ass feel good Obama era.

Veterans are not IN the military, so it will ultimately rest with those IN the military to decide, not OLD people with ancient prejudices. Your bigoted, discriminatory ancient attitudes are well known here. Gays in the marines could take you and your pansy ass down in about 10 seconds. Hilarious you probably actually think you're a patriot, even though your attitudes are aginst what America stands for, in 2017. Don't-Ask-Don't-Tell is unconstitutional, and this may be stuck down at some point also. We all know you want to turn the clock back to 1950, Dork Lord. Not ever gonna happen. The world has moved on, and left you ancient fossils far behind.

Well-fucking-said, Bucky. LGBTQ people are not a "distraction", unless you count the distraction that the right causes because they can't get past their ancient bigotries and fears. And there, it's the fucking bigots that are the distraction, not the LGBTQ people themselves.

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