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05-03-2018, 01:26 PM
RE: Trump: maybe US will have a president for life someday
(05-03-2018 01:23 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:  Odd run of posts from an account that's lain dormant so much. He comes out of the woodwork to dispute this?

My bullshit detector's off the charts.

Felt like coming on again, lost interest some time ago and now I'm back.

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05-03-2018, 01:28 PM
RE: Trump: maybe US will have a president for life someday
(05-03-2018 01:23 PM)darthdambalah Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 01:05 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  Looks like you have much reading to do - perhaps start with Adam Tooze The Wages of Destruction. Maybe it would help you with black/white view.

ETA: You may also want to read this article.

Article doesn't get to the point can you summerise?

Article itself does very good summary of the subject. Perhaps you just didn't liked it?

[...]Despite co-opting the name [of socialists], some of the rhetoric, and even some of the precepts of socialism, Hitler and party did so with utter cynicism, and with vastly different goals. The claim that the Nazis actually were leftists or socialists in any generally accepted sense of those terms flies in the face of historical reality.

[addition in bracket and bolding are mine]

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05-03-2018, 02:41 PM
RE: Trump: maybe US will have a president for life someday
(05-03-2018 12:39 PM)darthdambalah Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 12:37 PM)The Organic Chemist Wrote:  Because I am sure in 1030s Germany, there were people saying, "well, there goes that lunatic on the Jews again." Personally, I don't find it funny at all if the person saying it actually might try it.

Ehhh CNN is always lying. And are you really comparing trump to hitler now? Really?

Watch a lot of CNN in the Netherlands, do you?

You seem to have missed the Fox talking points, though, because the approved line is not that CNN's story is fake. (As there is undisputed audio of the event, they can't claim that.) It's that puppet was clearly simply joking and CNN is overreacting.
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05-03-2018, 04:20 PM (This post was last modified: 05-03-2018 04:35 PM by darthdambalah.)
RE: Trump: maybe US will have a president for life someday
(05-03-2018 01:28 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 01:23 PM)darthdambalah Wrote:  Article doesn't get to the point can you summerise?

Article itself does very good summary of the subject. Perhaps you just didn't liked it?

[...]Despite co-opting the name [of socialists], some of the rhetoric, and even some of the precepts of socialism, Hitler and party did so with utter cynicism, and with vastly different goals. The claim that the Nazis actually were leftists or socialists in any generally accepted sense of those terms flies in the face of historical reality.

[addition in bracket and bolding are mine]

Eh not true socialism sure. Heard it before. They were enemies of capitalism and that's enough bad juju for me.

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05-03-2018, 04:21 PM
RE: Trump: maybe US will have a president for life someday
(05-03-2018 02:41 PM)julep Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 12:39 PM)darthdambalah Wrote:  Ehhh CNN is always lying. And are you really comparing trump to hitler now? Really?

Watch a lot of CNN in the Netherlands, do you?

You seem to have missed the Fox talking points, though, because the approved line is not that CNN's story is fake. (As there is undisputed audio of the event, they can't claim that.) It's that puppet was clearly simply joking and CNN is overreacting.

Pfff I wouldn't waste my time with that. I have seen their deceit.

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05-03-2018, 04:35 PM (This post was last modified: 05-03-2018 04:40 PM by Szuchow.)
RE: Trump: maybe US will have a president for life someday
(05-03-2018 04:20 PM)darthdambalah Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 01:28 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  Article itself does very good summary of the subject. Perhaps you just didn't liked it?

[...]Despite co-opting the name [of socialists], some of the rhetoric, and even some of the precepts of socialism, Hitler and party did so with utter cynicism, and with vastly different goals. The claim that the Nazis actually were leftists or socialists in any generally accepted sense of those terms flies in the face of historical reality.

[addition in bracket and bolding are mine]

Eh not true socialism sure. Heard it before

Don't let those pesky facts change your mind and feel free to ignore the fact that they opposed capitalism on ground of it being Jewish invention. You may feel better by thinking that Nazis were on the left side but your feelings won't change the facts.

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05-03-2018, 04:40 PM
RE: Trump: maybe US will have a president for life someday
(05-03-2018 04:35 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 04:20 PM)darthdambalah Wrote:  Eh not true socialism sure. Heard it before

Don't let those pesky facts change your mind.

I can define it how I see fit. They were cut from the same red cloth that much is certain. Sure they might have acted less like it but that makes them better but not good.

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05-03-2018, 04:44 PM
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(05-03-2018 12:56 PM)darthdambalah Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 12:50 PM)The Organic Chemist Wrote:  Talking about mass deportations, thought crime, racist rhetoric, nationalist ideals, taking positions legally that would oppose the free press but only if he doesn't like the story, cooersion with Russia, a massive ego, an axe to grind, a zealous following that blindly goes along, and now saying (even if HALF joking) that the US needs a dictator..........well then yeah, that actually sounds a bit like ole Adolph. All he has to do is write a book about his struggle and annex Canada while creating a final solution to the immigrant question. It's really not as far fetched as you may think.

Thought crime can I have a source on that, for racist rhetoric too. Mass deportations of illegals is not the same as making a race/religion illegal and deporting them. Eh free press smeared him a lot so I don't blame him. Cooersion with Russia well that's fake news. Don't see the axe grinding thing and it's only what CNN says trump said, why should I trust CNN if they always lie. Also ehh zealous following I don't think so, I don't like his opinions on video games and the environment for example.

So not only are you trying to tell us of our politics, but you seriously can't even fucking google? Just cut and paste these into an open browser you lazy ass.

And I wasn't actually saying you were one of those followers BTW. It just apppears you are ignorant. He does have a base here where he can do no wrong. Grab ladies by the pussy on tape? Locker room talk. Making false assertions that all illegals are rapists? Well that's his opinion. You cant seriously be this stupid. Obama or Bush would have been crucified for saying half of the garbage Trump has said. Has CNN gotten some things wrong? You bet. But they have always issued a correction when shown their error. The same can't be said for Trump who doubles down on his lies. Most of the fake news is from the right lately. FFS dude, he can scarecely deliver a speech without blatantly lying. I doubt any politician in US history has told as many fibs.

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05-03-2018, 04:44 PM
RE: Trump: maybe US will have a president for life someday
(05-03-2018 04:40 PM)darthdambalah Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 04:35 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  Don't let those pesky facts change your mind.

I can define it how I see fit. They were cut from the same red cloth that much is certain. Sure they might have acted less like it but that makes them better but not good.

You can have your (ignorant) opinion but not your facts.

Also I would be careful with writing about Nazis being better.

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05-03-2018, 04:47 PM
RE: Trump: maybe US will have a president for life someday
(05-03-2018 04:44 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 04:40 PM)darthdambalah Wrote:  I can define it how I see fit. They were cut from the same red cloth that much is certain. Sure they might have acted less like it but that makes them better but not good.

You can have your (ignorant) opinion but not your facts.

Also I would be careful in writing about Nazis being better.

Careful? Careful of what? They were dangerous and horrible parasites and definitely no moral people but they were better than the commies. The facts are that the Nazis where enemies of democratic, capitalistic, liberal society.

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