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08-12-2015, 09:54 AM
RE: Trump wants to Ban Muslims from Entering US
(08-12-2015 09:52 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(08-12-2015 09:49 AM)wallym Wrote:  There is a practicality to the idea. ISIS/Al Qaeda want to get people into the US. Those people are Muslim. So don't allow Muslim's into the US and it'll severely hamper their ability to get them into the US.

The objections are naturally "Racist!" And "no fair!"

But that's what Trump wants. He's going to say that PC crowd wants to allow ISIS an easy way to sneak people into the US to kill our children in the name of fairness and political correctness.

And the other thing that Trump will have going for him, is Do people really want more Muslim's in the country? If it weren't for their skin color, Muslim's, stereotypically, would fit right in with the far right wing of the republican party. More votes against women and gays! There is no real support for that demographic in the country.

You and the rest of the Trumpettes don't seem to understand the difference between goals and means.

No way in hell I'm voting for Trump. I'm just looking at how he's trying to get elected, and how it could be working.

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08-12-2015, 10:20 AM
RE: Trump wants to Ban Muslims from Entering US
Trump is a Fascist.

Yet somehow Liberalism, and Socialism has become become a dirty word. I don't understand. I makes me sick to see how easily manipulated a crowed of people can be. How quickly they can be turned into an up roar. Fear is a powerful drug. Get people scared enough and you can tell them to do anything.

Home of the Free and Brave. Not anymore. All these right wingers nut jobs that I see wanted to build a wall, hide in a box with their guns and let no one in the boys only tree house.

I want to see religion disappear, but not this way. We can't resort to banning everyone from the middle east, or Muslim from entering the country. When will it stop? Next we'll ban the Chinese, then Africans because they have Terrorist groups also.

"We need to kill them before they kill us! Blow the fuckers up!" Is being yelled from both sides.

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08-12-2015, 10:20 AM
RE: Trump wants to Ban Muslims from Entering US
Below is data regarding the Mass Shootings in the US, from 1982-2015.
There have been 73, if I counted correctly.

US Mass Shooting Data

Of those 73 shootings:

38 were committed by White Males with Legally Obtained weapons.
Looks like 3 (including San Bernardino) were committed by middle easterners.

Frankly, I don't think muslim immigrants are the real threat...

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08-12-2015, 10:25 AM
RE: Trump wants to Ban Muslims from Entering US
(08-12-2015 10:20 AM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  Below is data regarding the Mass Shootings in the US, from 1982-2015.
There have been 73, if I counted correctly.

US Mass Shooting Data

Of those 73 shootings:

38 were committed by White Males with Legally Obtained weapons.
Looks like 3 (including San Bernardino) were committed by middle easterners.

Frankly, I don't think muslim immigrants are the real threat...

Well, up until recently, none were done by Muslims. The rate of increase is something to be noted.

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08-12-2015, 10:33 AM
RE: Trump wants to Ban Muslims from Entering US
(08-12-2015 10:25 AM)Chas Wrote:  Well, up until recently, none were done by Muslims. The rate of increase is something to be noted.

Is it?

Were they merely to occur at a rate commensurate with proportion of the general population - an assumption for the sake of this sentence - would it not be inevitable that they not occur until that demographic grew to be statistically significant?

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08-12-2015, 10:48 AM (This post was last modified: 08-12-2015 01:58 PM by yakherder.)
RE: Trump wants to Ban Muslims from Entering US
What a shitshow this election is going to be regardless of who wins. Ideally, I'd like to stick Trump and Hillary up each others' asses and ship them both off to a desert island somewhere. Trump can be safe from Muslims, and Hillary can be safe from the NRA.

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08-12-2015, 11:31 AM
RE: Trump wants to Ban Muslims from Entering US
(08-12-2015 10:20 AM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  Below is data regarding the Mass Shootings in the US, from 1982-2015.
There have been 73, if I counted correctly.

US Mass Shooting Data

Of those 73 shootings:

38 were committed by White Males with Legally Obtained weapons.
Looks like 3 (including San Bernardino) were committed by middle easterners.

Frankly, I don't think muslim immigrants are the real threat...

The harsh reality, is that mass shootings aren't the real threat. A nutjob with a gun kills 20 people if they do an amazing job? There are 300+ Million people in the US. 20, while a bummer, isn't a big deal yet. And mostly, they aren't 20. It's like 3. And I imagine a lot of those are family disputes or gang related which can be avoided by most.

The concern should be 9/11 style attacks. Big things that kill 100's, or 1000's, or more.

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08-12-2015, 11:33 AM
RE: Trump wants to Ban Muslims from Entering US
(08-12-2015 11:31 AM)wallym Wrote:  
(08-12-2015 10:20 AM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  Below is data regarding the Mass Shootings in the US, from 1982-2015.
There have been 73, if I counted correctly.

US Mass Shooting Data

Of those 73 shootings:

38 were committed by White Males with Legally Obtained weapons.
Looks like 3 (including San Bernardino) were committed by middle easterners.

Frankly, I don't think muslim immigrants are the real threat...

The harsh reality, is that mass shootings aren't the real threat. A nutjob with a gun kills 20 people if they do an amazing job? There are 300+ Million people in the US. 20, while a bummer, isn't a big deal yet. And mostly, they aren't 20. It's like 3. And I imagine a lot of those are family disputes or gang related which can be avoided by most.

The concern should be 9/11 style attacks. Big things that kill 100's, or 1000's, or more.

It’s not a “big thing” as long as it ain’t you? Consider

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08-12-2015, 11:36 AM
RE: Trump wants to Ban Muslims from Entering US
I must say it's a bit of fun watching all the election shenanigans from this side of the pond. Trump is 6/1 in the betting to win the presidential election! Third favorite!

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08-12-2015, 11:40 AM
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France has to be thinking, "Hey Trump, we didn't give you that giant statue just so you could shit all over the meaning"

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