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26-10-2016, 01:45 PM
RE: Trump will be president
(26-10-2016 01:39 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(26-10-2016 01:36 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  We might speak english over here in America but we are not Brits.

Never underestimate Patriots. When it's time for a real fight over something real, they'll show up.

Something real like a small group who wishes to overthrow democracy because they didn't get their way? You are not a Patriot you are a spoiled brat and a would be traitor to everything this country has ever stood for.

In the eyes of republicans, democrats are traitors. Sanctuary cities, gun bans, using constitutional amendments to justify things like abortion and gay marriage. The founders would not approve. A new constitutional amendment is one thing, but using an existing amendment for things it was never intended for is wrong.

"Evil will always triumph over good, because good is dumb." - Lord Dark Helmet
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26-10-2016, 01:46 PM
RE: Trump will be president
(26-10-2016 01:43 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(26-10-2016 01:41 PM)adey67 Wrote:  He's just trolling you mate don't rise to it you're better than that.

Nah he's just an idiot that has delusions of grandeur. He'd be funny except he probably will end up on the news in a stand off one day.

Then your problem will be solved by superior training and force Big Grin
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26-10-2016, 01:51 PM
RE: Trump will be president
(26-10-2016 01:45 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(26-10-2016 01:39 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Something real like a small group who wishes to overthrow democracy because they didn't get their way? You are not a Patriot you are a spoiled brat and a would be traitor to everything this country has ever stood for.

In the eyes of republicans, democrats are traitors. Sanctuary cities, gun bans, using constitutional amendments to justify things like abortion and gay marriage. The founders would not approve. A new constitutional amendment is one thing, but using an existing amendment for things it was never intended for is wrong.

What's the problem with gay marriage so long as no one is forcing you to marry a bloke ? What gives you the right to organise someone else's sex life ? Bet you cant answer that one can you bitch ? Lol
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26-10-2016, 01:57 PM
RE: Trump will be president
(26-10-2016 01:45 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  In the eyes of republicans, democrats are traitors. Sanctuary cities, gun bans, using constitutional amendments to justify things like abortion and gay marriage. The founders would not approve.

Why should I give a shit what a bunch of long dead drunkards would approve of today? For that matter, how the fuck you know what they would and wouldn't approve of? You got some sorta degree in Constitutional Law or something? ... and when did the republicans elect you to speak for them? ... wait a sec, you're one of them Bundys ain't ya? You know they're in jail now right?

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26-10-2016, 02:01 PM
RE: Trump will be president
(26-10-2016 01:38 PM)adey67 Wrote:  
(26-10-2016 01:36 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  We might speak english over here in America but we are not Brits.

Never underestimate Patriots. When it's time for a real fight over something real, they'll show up.

Well its a sort of prostitute English

Both British English and American English are hybrid mutts of real English, which is closer to Icelandic or Finnish and would not be easily understood by British or Americans Big Grin

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26-10-2016, 02:02 PM
RE: Trump will be president
(26-10-2016 01:51 PM)adey67 Wrote:  
(26-10-2016 01:45 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  In the eyes of republicans, democrats are traitors. Sanctuary cities, gun bans, using constitutional amendments to justify things like abortion and gay marriage. The founders would not approve. A new constitutional amendment is one thing, but using an existing amendment for things it was never intended for is wrong.

What's the problem with gay marriage so long as no one is forcing you to marry a bloke ? What gives you the right to organise someone else's sex life ? Bet you cant answer that one can you bitch ? Lol

Absolutely nothing. My brother in law is gay and he's one of my best friends.

My point was, things like bearing arms, free speech, freedom of religion etc are actually in the constitution. You won't find the words abortion or gay marriage. Using an existing amendment to justify those things with the supreme court "interpretation" is the incorrect method.

You see, we didn't pussy out when it came to slavery or womens voting. Slavery was wrong. Women not getting to vote was wrong. So they did it the right way. Amendment. They could have simply used the supreme court to say "slavery is wrong because all men are free based on amendment xyz." No, they fixed it the right way. They'll do the same with guns. Instead of mustering the required votes to change the 2nd amendment, or remove it, they'll use activist judges to interpret it their way. Slowly chip away at it.

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26-10-2016, 02:09 PM
RE: Trump will be president
Let’s reword your post so that it more closely reflects reality shall we?

(26-10-2016 12:23 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  It won’t be long before republicans racists and bigots are outnumbered everywhere. They don't have long before they start losing every election. Maybe 10-20 years and that will be it.

The republicans racists and bigots I know are aware of this. They all feel that the country was stolen from them is no longer letting them get away with all the shit they used to like segregation and unexamined bigotry. Illegal immigrants and refugees come and have babies, just like the Germans, Irish, Italians of past generations did and creating future tax payers, job creators as well as democrat voters.

(26-10-2016 12:23 PM)‘Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  They have 3 choices in the future.

1. Adapt and have minorities join their party Thumbsup
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2. Use their superior strength in weaponry to enforce their view of the constitution Abandon the Constitution and laws of the United States and become outlaws and miscreants.
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3. Use their superior strength in weaponry to create their own country Rise up against the armed forces of the United States and be killed, captured and incarcerated.


(26-10-2016 12:23 PM)‘Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  If you ask any republican, those are the only options for the future. They know that a democrat majority will be an end to gun rights and a host of other things they will NEVER allow to happen.

Deflect and pivot and attempt to make this about guns and gun rights. I thought you were arguing against illegal immigration?

The character of the country is always changing, as it has been for the 240 years of its existence and I’m happy to say for the better. Those in power and in the majority will always kick and scream when they see their star fall from prominence, it has always been thus. We’ve had a civil war because of it as well as periodic bouts of social unrest, nothing new here.

Folks like you and your Republican friends will throw temper tantrums but they can’t stop the glacial power of progress. We discarded with royalty and taxation without representation, we stopped slavery and passed child labor laws, suffrage won out and so did the right to vote by African Americans and now the LGBT community finally has the right to marry and serve in the armed forces. Get this through your thick skull, we’re not going back to the America that Trump wants to take us to, there are simply too many rational, forward thinking and long-term visionaries in the US.

Yes there are a bunch of ‘Murikans still (look in the mirror), but the majority of us don’t live in homogeneous isolation hiding in fear of every one that doesn’t look, act, pray, not pray or love differently than we do. You and your friends are afraid of shadows and prefer knee-jerk threats of violence over informed adult discussions. These are pathetic hissy fits more suitable of a spoiled 5 year old.

There are problems and real issues that need to be addressed by rational people in rational ways. Threats of violence in the streets and inaction and gridlock in Congress is better suited for banana republics, not for the United States of America. So I suggest you and your buddies put your big boy pants on and approach governing with some semblance of coherence and intellectual discipline because if not the Democratic party will again be elected to another four years in the White House and will continue to be until you all grow up. Drinking Beverage

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26-10-2016, 02:19 PM (This post was last modified: 26-10-2016 02:51 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Trump will be president
(26-10-2016 01:36 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(26-10-2016 01:29 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Please clean up if you are going to publicly masturbate. We saw how many people would stand up and fight in Oregon, none. What makes you think you are your racist buddies would gather any more support than those assholes?

We might speak english over here in America but we are not Brits.

Never underestimate Patriots. When it's time for a real fight over something real, they'll show up.

This is seriously delusional ... and more than seriously out of touch with reality. "Show up" for what ? Exactly ? You (Republican right-wing wackos) are NO MORE "patriotic" than anyone else, nor do they have a corner on patriotism. The liberal who takes the Constitution and Declaration of Independence seriously ("all men are created EQUAL") are just as patriotic as gun-totting wackos.
The thought that Americans would ever actually get out guns, and attempt to force some sort of social change with violence instead of at the ballot box is seriously bizarre, and so is the "flights of fancy" these (helpless, impotent) seriously out-of-touch people have, who actually spend their days sitting around fantasizing about this. We know that would never work, and long-term change is NEVER accomplished at the end of a gun.

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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26-10-2016, 02:21 PM
RE: Trump will be president
(26-10-2016 02:19 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  long-term change is NEVER accomplished at the end of a gun.

Word. Sometimes it takes barrel bombs too.

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26-10-2016, 02:21 PM
RE: Trump will be president
(26-10-2016 01:45 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(26-10-2016 01:39 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Something real like a small group who wishes to overthrow democracy because they didn't get their way? You are not a Patriot you are a spoiled brat and a would be traitor to everything this country has ever stood for.

In the eyes of republicans, democrats are traitors. Sanctuary cities, gun bans, using constitutional amendments to justify things like abortion and gay marriage. The founders would not approve. A new constitutional amendment is one thing, but using an existing amendment for things it was never intended for is wrong.

Your thinking and attitudes would appall the founders. After all, they were able to make peace and law, to work and live, with numerous fellow countrymen who had been on the other side of the Revolution. You can't even make peace with someone who thinks differently enough from you to vote for the "wrong" party.

Shameful.
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