Two Things That Annoy Seth About Atheist Culture
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01-12-2013, 08:25 AM
RE: Two Things That Annoy Seth About Atheist Culture
(01-12-2013 06:00 AM)Slowminded Wrote:  Liberals are enforcing PC language?

And what the fuck is a libertarian? I keep hearing that word. Is it a liberal with some kind of weird twist or something completely different ?

All I know about Murican politics is that Republicans are dicks and that Democrats are also dicks but not as much.

In America, political terms don't have definitions because everyone uses them to mean what they think they mean. No one owns a dictionary.

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01-12-2013, 08:26 AM
RE: Two Things That Annoy Seth About Atheist Culture
(01-12-2013 08:25 AM)Elesjei Wrote:  
(01-12-2013 06:00 AM)Slowminded Wrote:  Liberals are enforcing PC language?

And what the fuck is a libertarian? I keep hearing that word. Is it a liberal with some kind of weird twist or something completely different ?

All I know about Murican politics is that Republicans are dicks and that Democrats are also dicks but not as much.

In America, political terms don't have definitions because everyone uses them to mean what they think they mean. No one owns a dictionary.

That was my impression too.

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01-12-2013, 08:32 AM
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We gotz culture? Blink

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01-12-2013, 08:36 AM
RE: Two Things That Annoy Seth About Atheist Culture
(01-12-2013 08:25 AM)Elesjei Wrote:  
(01-12-2013 06:00 AM)Slowminded Wrote:  Liberals are enforcing PC language?

And what the fuck is a libertarian? I keep hearing that word. Is it a liberal with some kind of weird twist or something completely different ?

All I know about Murican politics is that Republicans are dicks and that Democrats are also dicks but not as much.

In America, political terms don't have definitions because everyone uses them to mean what they think they mean. No one owns a dictionary.

Not exactly. Our political traditions are different than Europe's or any other place I can think of. We founded our government during the age of enlightenment, which heavily influenced it. To conserve our past is to embrace the philosophies of that time, which is mostly Classical Liberalism. To conserve here is to be liberal. With out two party system both claim to both...so they got bastardized over the years. "Conservatives" want to stick to the economic liberalism (or claim to) and "Liberals" want to stick to social liberalism (or claim to). Both of the fuckers are full of shit even if you take for granted their fundamentally dishonest self-proclaimed titles. It's a fucking mess.

Europe's Conservatives want to conserve something entirely different, but it's still conservation.

Also, Dictionary? There's an app for that. Tongue

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01-12-2013, 08:38 AM
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(01-12-2013 08:32 AM)Anjele Wrote:  We gotz culture? Blink

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01-12-2013, 09:13 AM
RE: Two Things That Annoy Seth About Atheist Culture
(01-12-2013 06:00 AM)Slowminded Wrote:  Liberals are enforcing PC language?

And what the fuck is a libertarian? I keep hearing that word. Is it a liberal with some kind of weird twist or something completely different ?

All I know about Murican politics is that Republicans are dicks and that Democrats are also dicks but not as much.


Libertarians are very, very different than a liberal. On the graph of the political spectrum at the far right end is a libertarian, at the far left is Marxist Lenninist. Libertarianism stands for the most limited form of government possible, taxing only enough for a military and maybe (depending on who you talk to) roads. The rest is supposed to be privately owned. You have no equivalent in Europe or in any other place as far as I know. Libertarian is as odd as M-L, but on the other side. Our liberals are a little like your labour party (if you're from the UK). Except not nearly as left. Here is the spectrum.

<M-L----Liberal--Center)----Conservative-Libertarian>

As you can see indicated by the number of dashes liberals in this country are much closer to the center than are their counterparts conservatives. And this follows suit to real life, where we have many many many libertarians than we have Marxists. I've never met a Marxist, I know tons of libertarians.

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01-12-2013, 09:18 AM
RE: Two Things That Annoy Seth About Atheist Culture
(01-12-2013 12:46 AM)Ferdinand Wrote:  I didn't come here because of Seth or the podcasts, but I think that with several general topics he probably walks on stepping stones, not just the topics of younger listeners and liberals.

But that's just IMO. Lots of people listen to his podcasts. He wants to be honest, but he also wants to appeal to his listeners.


I think that your answer is probably most close to the truth. These two things I guess are just ones that popped out at me.
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01-12-2013, 09:25 AM
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(01-12-2013 08:36 AM)Dark Light Wrote:  Not exactly. Our political traditions are different than Europe's or any other place I can think of. We founded our government during the age of enlightenment, which heavily influenced it. To conserve our past is to embrace the philosophies of that time, which is mostly Classical Liberalism. To conserve here is to be liberal. With out two party system both claim to both...so they got bastardized over the years. "Conservatives" want to stick to the economic liberalism (or claim to) and "Liberals" want to stick to social liberalism (or claim to). Both of the fuckers are full of shit even if you take for granted their fundamentally dishonest self-proclaimed titles. It's a fucking mess.

'Twas a joke, sire.

I was referring to the horrible misuse of terms that occurs, particularly in the media, where people don't even stick to the American definitions. I can forgive Americans for arguing over the merits of republics compared to democracies, since those are mutually exclusive terms in America, apparently. But, for example, when someone refers to people who support anti-firearms legislation as "socialists'', that I cannot forgive.

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01-12-2013, 09:34 AM
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Sorry about that. And yes I think you're right.
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01-12-2013, 09:40 AM
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(01-12-2013 09:25 AM)Elesjei Wrote:  
(01-12-2013 08:36 AM)Dark Light Wrote:  Not exactly. Our political traditions are different than Europe's or any other place I can think of. We founded our government during the age of enlightenment, which heavily influenced it. To conserve our past is to embrace the philosophies of that time, which is mostly Classical Liberalism. To conserve here is to be liberal. With out two party system both claim to both...so they got bastardized over the years. "Conservatives" want to stick to the economic liberalism (or claim to) and "Liberals" want to stick to social liberalism (or claim to). Both of the fuckers are full of shit even if you take for granted their fundamentally dishonest self-proclaimed titles. It's a fucking mess.

'Twas a joke, sire.

I was referring to the horrible misuse of terms that occurs, particularly in the media, where people don't even stick to the American definitions. I can forgive Americans for arguing over the merits of republics compared to democracies, since those are mutually exclusive terms in America, apparently. But, for example, when someone refers to people who support anti-firearms legislation as "socialists'', that I cannot forgive.

Actually, no again. We are a Democratic Republic, any American with a passing knowledge of history and/or politics knows that...and the Democrats and the Republicans were once the Democratic Republicans. They split, and splintered into the Demorcrats and the Whigs, which split into the Republicans...it's a messy thing, politics.

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