Ukraine: The Russians are coming.
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04-03-2014, 12:49 AM
RE: Ukraine: The Russians are coming.
(03-03-2014 09:04 PM)HU.Junyuan Wrote:  Right wing / Conservatives are short-sighted. Like what Jon Stewart said, they won't feel the pain unless they are involved and on the less-previliged side.

The mess we are seeing in Ukraine right now, is the continuing hangover of leftist ideaology. The remnants of the USSR are still seeking to reconsolidate power, and Putin is probably already a de facto dictator.

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04-03-2014, 01:43 AM (This post was last modified: 04-03-2014 01:54 AM by HU.Junyuan.)
RE: Ukraine: The Russians are coming.
(04-03-2014 12:49 AM)toadaly Wrote:  
(03-03-2014 09:04 PM)HU.Junyuan Wrote:  Right wing / Conservatives are short-sighted. Like what Jon Stewart said, they won't feel the pain unless they are involved and on the less-previliged side.

The mess we are seeing in Ukraine right now, is the continuing hangover of leftist ideaology. The remnants of the USSR are still seeking to reconsolidate power, and Putin is probably already a de facto dictator.

If you didn't notice factions like Right Sector, then, whatever ...

Blaming the remnants of the USSR after 23 years of its collapse and multiple democratic presidential power handovers is like blaming the parents at the age of 23.

Putin is democratically elected ... for three times. And Russia is a country that has a constitution, with multiple parties and elect its presidents democratically ...

... and that's why I admire and laugh at the students in the 1989 Tiananmen Square protest, many of whom thought that by adopting the Western multi-party and election system, China would stand with the paradise-like US closely side by side, against the evil bear of Russia, probably the last batch of China's idealists.

Geopolitics is such an objective matter that it doesn't change no matter capitalism, socialism or communism, as long as the ambition, capability and potential still remains a threat.

PS. The left are government-tit-suckers, not government over-throwers, or at least in recent year it's been like so.

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04-03-2014, 02:26 AM
RE: Ukraine: The Russians are coming.
Today, in a news conference of the NPC & CPCC, an American journalist asked the Chinese spokeswoman, why China has such constant rising military expenditure despite her "rise in peace" claims. The spokeswoman answered, will there be peace if China has a weak national defense ?

The answer was no in 1840, 1864 and 1895.

The answer was no in 1904.

The answer was no in 1931 and 1937.

The answer was no in 1950.

The answer was no in 1975.

The answer was no in 1989.

And in 2014, I happen to know a country that was not asked this question but probably would like to answer no also.

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04-03-2014, 02:43 AM
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In 2004, Yushchenko and Tymoshenko together f**ked Yanukovych down, and exclaimed democracy prevailed !

In 2005, Yushchenko and Yanukovych together f**ked Tymoshenko down, and exclaimed democracy prevailed !

In 2007, Yushchenko and Tymoshenko together f**ked Yanukovych down, and exclaimed democracy prevailed !

In 2009, Yushchenko and Yanukovych together f**ked Tymoshenko down, and exclaimed democracy prevailed !

In 2010, Tymoshenko and Yanukovych together f**ked Yushchenko down, and exclaimed democracy prevailed !

In 2011, Yanukovych sent Tymoshenko to prison, and exclaimed democracy prevailed !

In 2014, Yanukovych went on exile, Tymoshenko came out, and exclaimed democracy prevailed !

And then the Russians keep coming in ...

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04-03-2014, 04:42 AM
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This year is certainly shaping up to be an interesting one indeed.

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04-03-2014, 04:54 AM
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(01-03-2014 05:58 AM)bemore Wrote:  Russia does not want to lose access to its assets. It is losing political ties with a country on its borders. I imagine most countries would do the same.

If true then Britain's fucked.
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04-03-2014, 05:00 AM
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(04-03-2014 04:54 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(01-03-2014 05:58 AM)bemore Wrote:  Russia does not want to lose access to its assets. It is losing political ties with a country on its borders. I imagine most countries would do the same.

If true then Britain's fucked.

I'm not exactly up on British politics.

Did they invade Ireland again?

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04-03-2014, 05:10 AM
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(04-03-2014 05:00 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(04-03-2014 04:54 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  If true then Britain's fucked.

I'm not exactly up on British politics.

Did they invade Ireland again?

Scotland ...

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04-03-2014, 05:18 AM
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(04-03-2014 05:10 AM)HU.Junyuan Wrote:  
(04-03-2014 05:00 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  I'm not exactly up on British politics.

Did they invade Ireland again?

Scotland ...

That too.

The British have a history of invading their neighbours. But then, what nation doesn't?

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04-03-2014, 05:19 AM
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(04-03-2014 05:00 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(04-03-2014 04:54 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  If true then Britain's fucked.

I'm not exactly up on British politics.

Did they invade Ireland again?

Scotland is voting on whether it should be independent this year. There is already a devolved government led by a solely Scottish party who won in a political system designed to stop an overall winner. The British government in London has been losing political ties to Scotland for a long time now and there are many economic, political and military resources that would be lost if there was a yes vote.

Military resources include a location for storing Britain's nuclear deterrent and land for military training, strategic access to the Shetland islands. Not to mention that the British army includes a high ratio of Scots.

Economic resources include oil and whisky exports, renewable energies and agriculture.

Political resources include putting at risk a seat on the UN security council and British politicians will have less stature on the world stage.
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