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31-10-2015, 03:42 PM
RE: (Un)affordable Care Act
(31-10-2015 03:35 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(31-10-2015 03:26 PM)Alla Wrote:  GirlyMan, you will pay for my health care? thank you!
But who will pay when 10% and 5% disappear?

Alla. For God's sake. You do realize what you just said?

what I am saying is this: when you take most of the money from rich people it will be no more rich people. when there are no rich people there is no free stuff.
When Sanders starts to take money from rich people to give free stuff to all it will be no more rich people. Then Sanders can't give me free stuff any more. It will make me cry.

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31-10-2015, 03:45 PM
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I believe in socialized medicine and that is what I want. Free care for everybody and don't tell me that would break the Treasury. Constant war hasn't broken it. Besides, I'd rather pay for universal health care than universal and unnecessary wars.

My wife and I are on Medicare. When you get to medicare age, you'd better pay for the medicare premiums [there ain't no free lunch] and you'd better get a good supplemental plan. For my wife and I, the medicare premiums and the premiums for the supplement plan total $800.00 per month. Now, that isn't all there is to it either. I am on a drug for my ulcerative colitis that insurance and medicare don't cover and it costs $2,000 per month.

My wife and I are rich and we still don't like paying the pharmaceutical companies this kind of bread every month. When you youngsters get to my age and have to start shoveling out big money even though you have medicare, I have only this to say to you -- Fuck you very much. You all hate socialism and you all wanted this system that will eventually bleed you to death. When you get hit for $2-3k a month for drugs and you cannot afford that, I will say -- it sucks to be you.

The alternative to this is, start supporting socialized medicine and candidates who will support it. If you don't, the fucking pharmaceutical companies will grab you by the nuts and they won't stop squeezing until you are dead broke.

There is another solution. My brother who is a doctor, and was a professor at a highly regarded medical school until he retired, goes to Sweden for his medical care. He gets it for very low cost and he says it's much better care than anything you can possibly get in the USA. I've used foreign medical care many times and I too think it's far better than anything we have here. Example, a few years ago I fell climbing in the Himalayas and gashed 14 inches of my leg open and broke my ankle. I was taken to a Russian Hospital and after I was in the ER, an administrator came in and said I was going to have to pay for the treatment. I expected that. I got a great doctor and he set my ankle and stitched my leg. The total cost to me was under $10.00 American.
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31-10-2015, 03:54 PM
RE: (Un)affordable Care Act
(31-10-2015 03:42 PM)Alla Wrote:  when there are no rich people there is no free stuff.

that sounds like an excellent reason to get rid of rich people. Drinking Beverage

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31-10-2015, 03:59 PM
RE: (Un)affordable Care Act
(31-10-2015 03:13 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(31-10-2015 10:47 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  But don't worry SithLord, it's only temporary. Once Colonel Sanders gets elected you won't have to pay for health insurance at all. Tongue
That's great. I like free stuff. Who doesn't like free stuff?
But I wonder what will happen when 1% disappears. Who will pay?

1%?

Let me tell you something: if you make at least 4,000 USD a year, you're a part of the 50%. $8,000, 25%. $16,000, 12½%. $32,000, about 6%. $64,000, 3%. $120,000, you're pretty damn close to being that 1%. I myself am part of the 9th or 10th percentile. I don't have a big house, fancy vehicle, or eat steak and lobster every night, but I am nonetheless quite wealthy. In fact, at the moment that I type this post, I am surrounded by great luxuries undreamed of by some of the mightiest medieval kings or the USA's wealthy, land owning founding fathers. I have a box that preserves my food (without salting or smoking it to death), running water (both cold and hot), a machine that can heat or cool all of the rooms in my house at the same time, illumination that doesn't smoke or drip (that has a very low risk of causing a fire), instant entertainment on demand, a truck that can carry me a distance that not too long ago would have taken days... in just an hour or two. It doesn't need to be fed every day and I don't have to shovel tons of shit. I'm wealthier beyond the dreams of almost every human in the planet's history.

Yet, the mere suggestion of taking measures to increase the collective wealth of all is bad?

Some people just aren't happy unless they have something to be unhappy about. This isn't about a glass being only half full or empty. This is about a glass being 98% full, and certain loud folks shouting about the empty 2% being proof of all of their contentions, dissatisfaction, and fuel for a persecution complex.

Rant off. I hope that it wasn't too off-topic.

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31-10-2015, 04:04 PM
RE: (Un)affordable Care Act
(31-10-2015 03:38 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(31-10-2015 03:26 PM)Alla Wrote:  GirlyMan, you will pay for my health care? thank you!
I will contribute if you need help.
I know you will, you are great person. You have big heart and sweet spirit.
(31-10-2015 03:38 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  But you are rich. I expect that you will contribute to those who ain't rich like you. Do you?
I do contribute. I pay taxes, I give 10% of my income to charity and I do other offerings every month.
Is this enough? Probably, not according to communist Sanders.

If I have to pay more (the way communist Sanders want) then I am not going to be rich any more. I will be poor and I will need free stuff. I will depend on the government. The government may take advantage of this.

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31-10-2015, 04:09 PM
RE: (Un)affordable Care Act
(31-10-2015 03:59 PM)Old Man Marsh Wrote:  Some people just aren't happy unless they have something to be unhappy about. This isn't about a glass being only half full or empty. This is about a glass being 98% full, and certain loud folks shouting about the empty 2% being proof of all of their contentions, dissatisfaction, and fuel for a persecution complex.

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31-10-2015, 04:11 PM
RE: (Un)affordable Care Act
(31-10-2015 03:54 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(31-10-2015 03:42 PM)Alla Wrote:  when there are no rich people there is no free stuff.

that sounds like an excellent reason to get rid of rich people. Drinking Beverage
If we get rid of rich how is this going to make my life better?

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31-10-2015, 04:14 PM
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(31-10-2015 04:11 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(31-10-2015 03:54 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  that sounds like an excellent reason to get rid of rich people. Drinking Beverage
If we get rid of rich how is this going to make my life better?

Your life will likely be unaffected.

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31-10-2015, 04:19 PM
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(31-10-2015 03:59 PM)Old Man Marsh Wrote:  Yet, the mere suggestion of taking measures to increase the collective wealth of all is bad?
But if there will be no more rich people but a bunch of kind of poor people collective wealth is not going to be that big. So, what is the point of getting rid of rich people? You are going to be the same poor accept you will have government that will have total control of you. You will depend on this government.
Unfortunately, socialists of the 21st century don't get it. They don't believe that it will be time when they will hate this society.
They will want the government to give them more free stuff. But it will be no evil rich people to rob.

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31-10-2015, 04:20 PM
RE: (Un)affordable Care Act
(31-10-2015 04:14 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(31-10-2015 04:11 PM)Alla Wrote:  If we get rid of rich how is this going to make my life better?

Your life will likely be unaffected.
I am not going to be rich any more. It will affect my life.

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