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09-05-2016, 04:42 AM (This post was last modified: 09-05-2016 05:19 AM by Silly Deity.)
Unicorns in the Bible
Google Facts today tweeted that unicorns were mentioned in the Bible.

https://twitter.com/GoogleFacts/status/7...4087400448

Really Google?

Let's take a look at this " fact" shall we?

In the KJV of the Bible the following verses refer to unicorns:

• Numbers 23:22 — “God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.”
• Numbers 24:8 — “God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.”
• Deuteronomy 33:17 — “His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.”
• Job 39:9-10 — “Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?”
• Psalm 22:21 — “Save me from the lion’s mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.”
• Psalm 29:6 — “He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.”
• Psalm 92:10 — “But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.”
• Isaiah 34:7 — “And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.”

The problem is that the Hebrew word the KJV renders as unicorn is "re’em", and nobody really knew what that word meant back at the time of the translation. Back in 1611 the translators thought that "re’em" referred to some vaguely imagined mysterious wild creature. And for them “unicorn” also referred to some vaguely imagined mysterious wild creature. So for them, at the time, it was a complete guess.

Today, we’re still not really sure what that word "re’em" means or meant. For a variety of reasons, “wild ox” now seems to be a more accurate guess — but guesswork is about as close as we can get.

More recent versions of the Bible translate it as wild ox, buffalo or even rhinoceros.

So while Google Facts is correct in the sense that the word "unicorn" is mentioned in the KJV Bible, it is a mistranslation. But of course this doesn't matter one iota for many christians who will now believe that Google thinks that the Bible is a book of facts.

Thanks for nothing Google!

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09-05-2016, 04:46 AM
RE: Unicorns in the Bible
Either way you look at it ---

A. They meant unicorns.
B. They meant something else

They got it wrong.

So --- yer bible's perfect, huh?????

Not so much, apparently.

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09-05-2016, 04:55 AM
RE: Unicorns in the Bible
It's a rhinoceros.

Also, the Behemoth is an elephant.

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09-05-2016, 05:22 AM
RE: Unicorns in the Bible
A lot of crap is mentioned in the bible. Magic babies with super powers and surviving rigor mortis are the two main fantastic claims Christianity depends on, and since both the birth myth and death myth are not true, does it really matter all the other crap isn't true either?

But to be fair, every religion is full of superstitions.

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09-05-2016, 05:40 AM
RE: Unicorns in the Bible
(09-05-2016 04:42 AM)Silly Deity Wrote:  More recent versions of the Bible translate it as wild ox, buffalo or even rhinoceros.

Interesting how apologetics works, the word unicorn could be true or not, the entire passage is based off of an indeterminate Hebrew word, so it leaves it wide open to interpretation. The apologists will gravitate towards the more reasonable use of this indeterminate word as a conventional; and believable animal.

The bible; with it's numerous ridiculous passages, has to be interpreted due to it's ancient and sometimes undecipherable language.

Interpretation= your opinion= worthless. If you have to form your own opinion on what it says, or accede to another's opinion, then it's not much use.

At that point, we're all just making stuff up, it would be nice if Christians would just admit this upfront.

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09-05-2016, 07:13 AM
RE: Unicorns in the Bible
Wow... not what I expected coming into this topic.

You wrote actual truth when it comes to mistranslated words in the Bible. Not just "unicorns lol".

Bravo.

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09-05-2016, 07:18 AM
RE: Unicorns in the Bible
(09-05-2016 04:46 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  So --- yer bible's perfect, huh?????

Not so much, apparently.

No where in the Bible does it claim to be literally inerrant.

It claims divine inspiration in terms of its teachings.

Picking out literal mistakes is a straw man because it does nothing to affect the inspiration of the stories or the teachings.

The literal, mathematical, historical and scientific mistakes are just that... literal mistakes by humans, translations or understandings of the time period and in no way affect the message or the point of what is being conveyed.

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09-05-2016, 07:29 AM
RE: Unicorns in the Bible
Just curious, where does it "claim divine inspiration in terms of its teachings"? Is there a forward or something like that that conveys the author's intent? Or perhaps is the "divine inspiration" a more modern interpretation in light of the content?

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09-05-2016, 07:34 AM (This post was last modified: 09-05-2016 07:42 AM by Silly Deity.)
RE: Unicorns in the Bible
(09-05-2016 07:18 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 04:46 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  So --- yer bible's perfect, huh?????

Not so much, apparently.

No where in the Bible does it claim to be literally inerrant.

It claims divine inspiration in terms of its teachings.

Picking out literal mistakes is a straw man because it does nothing to affect the inspiration of the stories or the teachings.

The literal, mathematical, historical and scientific mistakes are just that... literal mistakes by humans, translations or understandings of the time period and in no way affect the message or the point of what is being conveyed.

But if it is so vague or written in language so obtuse as to be easily "misinterpreted" or mistranslated........how does anyone know its claims or fables amount to anything? It's a bit of nonsense to base an entire religion or indeed any moral, ethical or cultural norms on writings that are so patently "errant".

Biblical inerrancy, as formulated in the "Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy", is the doctrine that the Bible "is without error or fault in all its teaching"; or, at least, that "Scripture in the original manuscripts does not affirm anything that is contrary to fact".

If nobody knows what the original scripture actually said............how do they know what is fact and what is made-up stuff??

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09-05-2016, 07:35 AM
RE: Unicorns in the Bible
(09-05-2016 07:18 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(09-05-2016 04:46 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  So --- yer bible's perfect, huh?????

Not so much, apparently.

No where in the Bible does it claim to be literally inerrant.

It claims divine inspiration in terms of its teachings.

Picking out literal mistakes is a straw man because it does nothing to affect the inspiration of the stories or the teachings.

The literal, mathematical, historical and scientific mistakes are just that... literal mistakes by humans, translations or understandings of the time period and in no way affect the message or the point of what is being conveyed.

The question then remains - why a divinely inspired work of texts, with such an important message/point to convey, can be prone to endless literal mistakes, mistranslations, misunderstandings, and smell of being written by men of the specific time period and place they occupied?

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