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29-04-2014, 02:26 PM
Unitarian Universalism
http://www.uua.org/beliefs/welcome/atheism/index.shtml

I saw this webpage while browsing the internet, and I have been toying with the idea of checking out one of their services. I am having a hard time figuring out exactly what they believe, and whether or not it is worth my time.

Has anybody on the forum had experience with this group?
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29-04-2014, 02:49 PM
RE: Unitarian Universalism
(29-04-2014 02:26 PM)Bible Belt Brawler Wrote:  http://www.uua.org/beliefs/welcome/atheism/index.shtml

I saw this webpage while browsing the internet, and I have been toying with the idea of checking out one of their services. I am having a hard time figuring out exactly what they believe, and whether or not it is worth my time.

Has anybody on the forum had experience with this group?

They tend to be pretty non-denominational. Politically liberal. Community seems to be far more important than any sort of doctrine or dogma. Take a little from this and a little from that.

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29-04-2014, 02:52 PM
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Well...randomly and briefly perusing through their web-site and linked documents brings up a rather interesting little snippet.

" • Latex condoms can greatly reduce, but not eliminate, the risk of HIV transmission during intercourse. "

(Page 66 of this document => http://www.siecus.org/_data/global/image...elines.pdf )

Pretty sure that's a furfy. :/

Have not the time to really peruse more - but simply, quickly finding that little gem kind of colours my perception of the group.

Reading their views on people's sexual relations (As in gender) will also be interesting...

Much cheers to all.
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29-04-2014, 03:21 PM
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(29-04-2014 02:52 PM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  Well...randomly and briefly perusing through their web-site and linked documents brings up a rather interesting little snippet.

" • Latex condoms can greatly reduce, but not eliminate, the risk of HIV transmission during intercourse. "

(Page 66 of this document => http://www.siecus.org/_data/global/image...elines.pdf )

Pretty sure that's a furfy. :/

Have not the time to really peruse more - but simply, quickly finding that little gem kind of colours my perception of the group.

Reading their views on people's sexual relations (As in gender) will also be interesting...

Much cheers to all.

I have a friend who is the pastor of a UU church, she is gay.

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29-04-2014, 03:48 PM
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I am currently a UU member and have been for many years.

My wife and I are from different religious backgrounds so we were married by a Unitarian Universalist minister in the hope of keeping some family peace by at least appearing to have a religious ceremony. When we adopted our kids, religion also seemed to be important in that process, so we listed UU as our "faith". In addition, we wanted our kids to be exposed to various religions for educational purposes and so they will be equipped someday to make informed decisions about what they think about the whole religion subject. So that's why we have kept attending.

Unitarian Universalists accept people of all faiths and of no faith in their church. In my view, they are almost as much political as they are religious since the members frequently organize and get involved in political causes (civil rights types of causes). As already mentioned by Taq, they tend to be liberal. Services are generally more about morals and ways of living than about any particular god, but specific gods and religious traditions can be mentioned and celebrated around the appropriate holidays. In the church that I attend, I know some atheists, homosexuals, lesbians, Christians, Jews, and Buddhists. I'm sure the specific denominations and perspectives vary from church to church.

The church holds to these seven principles:
1st Principle: The inherent worth and dignity of every person.
2nd Principle: Justice, equity and compassion in human relations.
3rd Principle: Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations.
4th Principle: A free and responsible search for truth and meaning.
5th Principle: The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large.
6th Principle: The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all.
7th Principle: Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.

It can be a good place to go for new apostates or others who still want the sense of community that comes with religion. However, if liberal isn't your thing, then the church may not be for you.

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29-04-2014, 03:59 PM
RE: Unitarian Universalism
(29-04-2014 02:26 PM)Bible Belt Brawler Wrote:  http://www.uua.org/beliefs/welcome/atheism/index.shtml

I saw this webpage while browsing the internet, and I have been toying with the idea of checking out one of their services. I am having a hard time figuring out exactly what they believe, and whether or not it is worth my time.

Has anybody on the forum had experience with this group?

I will not put my faith in those that understand neither grammar nor syntax. This is the worst english i have read since thomas hardy

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29-04-2014, 05:26 PM
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(29-04-2014 03:48 PM)Impulse Wrote:  I am currently a UU member and have been for many years.

My wife and I are from different religious backgrounds so we were married by a Unitarian Universalist minister in the hope of keeping some family peace by at least appearing to have a religious ceremony. When we adopted our kids, religion also seemed to be important in that process, so we listed UU as our "faith". In addition, we wanted our kids to be exposed to various religions for educational purposes and so they will be equipped someday to make informed decisions about what they think about the whole religion subject. So that's why we have kept attending.

Unitarian Universalists accept people of all faiths and of no faith in their church. In my view, they are almost as much political as they are religious since the members frequently organize and get involved in political causes (civil rights types of causes). As already mentioned by Taq, they tend to be liberal. Services are generally more about morals and ways of living than about any particular god, but specific gods and religious traditions can be mentioned and celebrated around the appropriate holidays. In the church that I attend, I know some atheists, homosexuals, lesbians, Christians, Jews, and Buddhists. I'm sure the specific denominations and perspectives vary from church to church.

The church holds to these seven principles:
1st Principle: The inherent worth and dignity of every person.
2nd Principle: Justice, equity and compassion in human relations.
3rd Principle: Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations.
4th Principle: A free and responsible search for truth and meaning.
5th Principle: The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large.
6th Principle: The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all.
7th Principle: Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.

It can be a good place to go for new apostates or others who still want the sense of community that comes with religion. However, if liberal isn't your thing, then the church may not be for you.

As someone's who attended UU services most of his adult life, I'll echo everything Impulse said. The UUA is very pro-LBGTetc rights. Dogma is specifically avoided. There are no creeds, and the membership is not only diverse in its beliefs or absence thereof, but quite proud of that diversity. Atheists and Agnostics are quite welcome, and make up a larger share of the UU membership than Christians do, as of the last survey I'm aware of.
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29-04-2014, 05:31 PM
RE: Unitarian Universalism
(29-04-2014 03:59 PM)PeterKA Wrote:  I will not put my faith in those that understand neither grammar nor syntax. This is the worst English I have read since Thomas Hardy

Partially fixed.
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29-04-2014, 05:32 PM
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(29-04-2014 02:26 PM)Bible Belt Brawler Wrote:  http://www.uua.org/beliefs/welcome/atheism/index.shtml

I saw this webpage while browsing the internet, and I have been toying with the idea of checking out one of their services. I am having a hard time figuring out exactly what they believe, and whether or not it is worth my time.

Has anybody on the forum had experience with this group?

I volunteer with them. Nice people, but have a tendency to desecrate and misinterpret many cultural and religious traditions in a few minutes.
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29-04-2014, 06:53 PM
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(29-04-2014 03:48 PM)Impulse Wrote:  I am currently a UU member and have been for many years.

My wife and I are from different religious backgrounds so we were married by a Unitarian Universalist minister in the hope of keeping some family peace by at least appearing to have a religious ceremony. When we adopted our kids, religion also seemed to be important in that process, so we listed UU as our "faith". In addition, we wanted our kids to be exposed to various religions for educational purposes and so they will be equipped someday to make informed decisions about what they think about the whole religion subject. So that's why we have kept attending.

Unitarian Universalists accept people of all faiths and of no faith in their church. In my view, they are almost as much political as they are religious since the members frequently organize and get involved in political causes (civil rights types of causes). As already mentioned by Taq, they tend to be liberal. Services are generally more about morals and ways of living than about any particular god, but specific gods and religious traditions can be mentioned and celebrated around the appropriate holidays. In the church that I attend, I know some atheists, homosexuals, lesbians, Christians, Jews, and Buddhists. I'm sure the specific denominations and perspectives vary from church to church.

The church holds to these seven principles:
1st Principle: The inherent worth and dignity of every person.
2nd Principle: Justice, equity and compassion in human relations.
3rd Principle: Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations.
4th Principle: A free and responsible search for truth and meaning.
5th Principle: The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large.
6th Principle: The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all.
7th Principle: Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.

It can be a good place to go for new apostates or others who still want the sense of community that comes with religion. However, if liberal isn't your thing, then the church may not be for you.

Yes all this.

One thing I don't like about them, while they're completely inclusive when it comes to religion don't mention that you think religious belief is silly.

people are welcome to discuss their belief without finger pointing , but atheists aren't exactly welcome to talk about their lack of belief, since that's viewed and misconstrued as being intolerant or disrepectful to others.

Does that make sense?


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