*Unvaccinated* autistic kids
Post Reply
 
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Votes - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
17-02-2015, 07:51 AM
RE: *Unvaccinated* autistic kids
(17-02-2015 07:39 AM)Anti Wrote:  lets see them. which one do you recommend?

Do you even Google?

This one's good.

So's this one.

And, there's this one.

Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
[Image: flagstiny%206.gif]
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes Chas's post
17-02-2015, 08:09 AM (This post was last modified: 17-02-2015 08:49 AM by Anti.)
RE: *Unvaccinated* autistic kids
only one of those compared vaccinated vs unvaccinated and it barely gave any details like who funded that study and etc. also there are congressmen and others that have been asking for a study to be done on vaccinated vs. unvaccinated. some reason they never heard of this study or don't trust it.

the other study was on the mercury. everyone knows that mercury is one of the most toxic chemicals on the planet yet somehow these chemical companies say that their form of mercury is safe. beside being just ridiculous there are many other scientists that have said all forms are mercury are toxic.

The one about the mmr vaccine is purely bogus. there are thousands of examples of parents saying their child was perfectly fine until the mmr vaccine and that night they were banging their heads against the wall. There is a congressional hearing and the congress woman says she knows of over 50 families with the exact same story. The link I provided about the lawsuits that merck has settled had the exact same stories documented in court that the kids were fine until the vaccine. The one family had their doctor and school teachers and neighbors all testify the child was perfectly fine.... until the toxic chemical cocktail injection.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
17-02-2015, 10:54 AM (This post was last modified: 17-02-2015 10:57 AM by GirlyMan.)
RE: *Unvaccinated* autistic kids
(17-02-2015 07:25 AM)Anti Wrote:  Only vaccinated children get autism. look at the stats.

(17-02-2015 07:44 AM)Learner Wrote:  
(17-02-2015 07:39 AM)Anti Wrote:  lets see them. which one do you recommend?

This was posted at the beginning of this thread:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.11...1425.x/pdf

Idiot didn't even need to google when he could've just read the fucking thread. Guess that was too much to ask. Just another disingenuous blowhard.

#sigh
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 2 users Like GirlyMan's post
17-02-2015, 11:02 AM
RE: *Unvaccinated* autistic kids
(17-02-2015 08:09 AM)Anti Wrote:  only one of those compared vaccinated vs unvaccinated and it barely gave any details like who funded that study and etc. also there are congressmen and others that have been asking for a study to be done on vaccinated vs. unvaccinated. some reason they never heard of this study or don't trust it.

the other study was on the mercury. everyone knows that mercury is one of the most toxic chemicals on the planet yet somehow these chemical companies say that their form of mercury is safe. beside being just ridiculous there are many other scientists that have said all forms are mercury are toxic.

Metallic or elemental mercury is toxic, mercury compounds are not the same.
Sodium is a toxic metal that explosively reacts with water; chlorine is a poisonous gas that causes severe tissue damage.
Sodium chloride is table salt.

Quote:The one about the mmr vaccine is purely bogus. there are thousands of examples of parents saying their child was perfectly fine until the mmr vaccine and that night they were banging their heads against the wall.

Correlation is not causation. There is no difference in autism rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated children.
The latest research on autism points to a developmental issue that begins in utero.

Quote:There is a congressional hearing and the congress woman says she knows of over 50 families with the exact same story.

Correlation is not causation.

Quote:The link I provided about the lawsuits that merck has settled had the exact same stories documented in court that the kids were fine until the vaccine. The one family had their doctor and school teachers and neighbors all testify the child was perfectly fine.... until the toxic chemical cocktail injection.

A vaccine is not "toxic chemical cocktail injection". You need to learn the science.

Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
[Image: flagstiny%206.gif]
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 3 users Like Chas's post
17-02-2015, 11:22 AM (This post was last modified: 17-02-2015 11:38 AM by GirlyMan.)
RE: *Unvaccinated* autistic kids
(17-02-2015 11:02 AM)Chas Wrote:  Correlation is not causation.
...
Correlation is not causation.

It's worse than that. All the anti-vaxxers evidence is anecdotal. Real scientists have seriously considered the hypothesis that there may be some sorta epigenetic causal relationship between vaccinations and autism and what they found was causation be damned they COULD NOT ESTABLISH A STATISTICAL CORRELATION. This obviously does not mean that there is not an epigenetic causal relationship in some portion of the population but it does mean that portion is too small to even cause a blip in population statistics.

#sigh
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 3 users Like GirlyMan's post
17-02-2015, 11:27 AM
RE: *Unvaccinated* autistic kids
Nobody trusts studies that are funded by corrupt chemical companies. If you want to trust them then that is fine.

The reason for the vaccine backlash is because all those people with children that got the vaccine and started banging their heads against the floor all got together and now here we are. And more and more people are going to continue to refuse them. You can have a hundred faulty studies made by chemical companies.

Its not just the religious that are refusing them anymore. It is all the affluent and educated and all those that have been victimized by them. They've been reporting that some private schools have less than 25% of kids vaccinated.

A whole multibillion dollar food industry was created all because people do not trust chemical companies.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
17-02-2015, 11:33 AM
RE: *Unvaccinated* autistic kids
(17-02-2015 11:27 AM)Anti Wrote:  Nobody trusts studies that are funded by corrupt chemical companies. If you want to trust them then that is fine.

The reason for the vaccine backlash is because all those people with children that got the vaccine and started banging their heads against the floor all got together and now here we are. And more and more people are going to continue to refuse them. You can have a hundred faulty studies made by chemical companies.

Its not just the religious that are refusing them anymore. It is all the affluent and educated and all those that have been victimized by them. They've been reporting that some private schools have less than 25% of kids vaccinated.

A whole multibillion dollar food industry was created all because people do not trust chemical companies.

Chemical companies? What the fuck are you on about now?

Multiple peer-reviewed studies published in Lancet, New England Journal of Medicine, Journal of the American Medical Association, and more have conclusively demonstrated that vaccines do not cause autism.

The evidence is that autism is a developmental disorder that starts in utero.

NIH Wrote:Scientists aren’t certain about what causes ASD, but it’s likely that both genetics and environment play a role. Researchers have identified a number of genes associated with the disorder. Studies of people with ASD have found irregularities in several regions of the brain. Other studies suggest that people with ASD have abnormal levels of serotonin or other neurotransmitters in the brain. These abnormalities suggest that ASD could result from the disruption of normal brain development early in fetal development caused by defects in genes that control brain growth and that regulate how brain cells communicate with each other, possibly due to the influence of environmental factors on gene function. While these findings are intriguing, they are preliminary and require further study. The theory that parental practices are responsible for ASD has long been disproved.

Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
[Image: flagstiny%206.gif]
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes Chas's post
17-02-2015, 11:38 AM
RE: *Unvaccinated* autistic kids
Quote:The evidence is that autism is a developmental disorder that starts in utero.

Except the kids only start banging their heads against the wall right after the mmr vaccines and how are you going to tell the thousands of victimized families any different. good luck with that.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
17-02-2015, 11:42 AM
RE: *Unvaccinated* autistic kids
(17-02-2015 11:33 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(17-02-2015 11:27 AM)Anti Wrote:  Nobody trusts studies that are funded by corrupt chemical companies. If you want to trust them then that is fine.

Chemical companies? What the fuck are you on about now?

Multiple peer-reviewed studies published in Lancet, New England Journal of Medicine, Journal of the American Medical Association, and more have conclusively demonstrated that vaccines do not cause autism.

Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry ...

#sigh
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes GirlyMan's post
17-02-2015, 11:45 AM (This post was last modified: 17-02-2015 11:52 AM by pablo.)
RE: *Unvaccinated* autistic kids
......
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply
Forum Jump: