Upgrading the God Concept
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19-12-2011, 10:02 PM
RE: Upgrading the God Concept
(19-12-2011 09:22 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(19-12-2011 08:56 PM)Chas Wrote:  I don't think this needs a response.

... must ... redirect ... shit cannon ... gonna go find AbdelZ. Wink

You funny bastard but who's AbdelZ? Is he your mate lol
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19-12-2011, 10:14 PM
RE: Upgrading the God Concept
(19-12-2011 10:02 PM)aurora2020 Wrote:  
(19-12-2011 09:22 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(19-12-2011 08:56 PM)Chas Wrote:  I don't think this needs a response.

... must ... redirect ... shit cannon ... gonna go find AbdelZ. Wink

You funny bastard but who's AbdelZ? Is he your mate lol

GM and AbZ are the best of buds, I assure you!

It was just a fucking apple man, we're sorry okay? Please stop the madness Laugh out load
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19-12-2011, 10:18 PM (This post was last modified: 19-12-2011 10:22 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Upgrading the God Concept
(19-12-2011 10:14 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  
(19-12-2011 10:02 PM)aurora2020 Wrote:  
(19-12-2011 09:22 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(19-12-2011 08:56 PM)Chas Wrote:  I don't think this needs a response.

... must ... redirect ... shit cannon ... gonna go find AbdelZ. Wink

You funny bastard but who's AbdelZ? Is he your mate lol

GM and AbZ are the best of buds, I assure you!


Don't encourage Girly. :sigh:

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19-12-2011, 10:22 PM
RE: Upgrading the God Concept
(19-12-2011 10:18 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(19-12-2011 10:02 PM)aurora2020 Wrote:  
(19-12-2011 09:22 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(19-12-2011 08:56 PM)Chas Wrote:  I don't think this needs a response.

... must ... redirect ... shit cannon ... gonna go find AbdelZ. Wink

You funny bastard but who's AbdelZ? Is he your mate lol

Don't encourage Girly. :sigh:

No, but a good prodding of Girly is fun now and then.

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21-12-2011, 07:34 PM
RE: Upgrading the God Concept
(19-12-2011 10:22 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  No, but a good prodding of Girly is fun now and then.

oooooh ... tee hee, that tickled ... tee hee. Blush

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22-12-2011, 07:48 PM
RE: Upgrading the God Concept
Girly, I am having you charged with manslaughter as my head exploded after reading up on 'Biocentrism'!!!
...the hell???

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22-12-2011, 08:02 PM (This post was last modified: 22-12-2011 08:12 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Upgrading the God Concept
(22-12-2011 07:48 PM)aurora2020 Wrote:  Girly, I am having you charged with manslaughter as my head exploded after reading up on 'Biocentrism'!!!
...the hell???

You're not done yet. Now take that information and use it to interpret this sermon from the Prophet posted over in the Identity thread in the Philosophy forum.

(20-12-2011 03:59 PM)houseofcantor Wrote:  Identity is yours to define. Perhaps it is quantum decoherence to physics: identities collapse the waveform , to uncollapse the waveform is to become one with nothing. ...
Speaking of experiments, this monkey been swinging of the branch of superposition as of late (it has been my identity Smile ) Allow me to use the religious nonsense of "soul" for an intermediate translation between Hoc and atheists. The "soul," after biology, returns to non-locality. It cannot but otherwise "know home and the return to the source of creation;" for the simple fact that all "soul" is, is first pattern reinforcement produced by the machinery of I over a life of processing pattern.

I really don't want to play John the Baptist to HoC's Jesus, but I fear it may be too late. Dodgy

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22-12-2011, 08:13 PM
RE: Upgrading the God Concept
(22-12-2011 07:48 PM)aurora2020 Wrote:  Girly, I am having you charged with manslaughter as my head exploded after reading up on 'Biocentrism'!!!
...the hell???

Relax - biocentrism is just the anthropic principle on hallucinogens. Ignore it.

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22-12-2011, 08:25 PM (This post was last modified: 22-12-2011 08:32 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Upgrading the God Concept
(22-12-2011 08:13 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(22-12-2011 07:48 PM)aurora2020 Wrote:  Girly, I am having you charged with manslaughter as my head exploded after reading up on 'Biocentrism'!!!
...the hell???

Relax - biocentrism is just the anthropic principle on hallucinogens. Ignore it.

Yup, Chas has got it, although speaking as someone experienced in both steroids and hallucinogens, biocentrism feels better characterized as the anthropic principle on steroids, or maybe hallucinogenic steroids. What Lanza has done is to take a previously rather obscure quantum mechanics interpretation and make it available to the masses for our collective consideration.

I feel like the words of Richard Conn Henry of JHU in his review bear repeating:

"And what is their underlying thesis? They present it as a long list of Principles of Biocentrism that have no individual value, in my opinion––but the heart of it, collectively, is correct. On page 15 they say 'the animal observer creates reality and not the other way around.' That is the essence of the entire book, and that is factually correct. It is an elementary conclusion from quantum mechanics.

So what Lanza says in this book is not new. Then why does Robert have to say it at all? It is because we, the physicists, do NOT say it––or if we do say it, we only whisper it, and in private––furiously blushing as we mouth the words. True, yes; politically correct, hell no!"

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22-12-2011, 08:31 PM (This post was last modified: 22-12-2011 08:35 PM by Chas.)
RE: Upgrading the God Concept
(22-12-2011 08:25 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  ––but the heart of it, collectively, is correct. On page 15 they say 'the animal observer creates reality and not the other way around.' That is the essence of the entire book, and that is factually correct. It is an elementary conclusion from quantum mechanics.

I think this is a common misunderstanding of quantum mechanics. The uncertainty principle applies at the particle level, not the macro level.
At the macro level, the uncertainties average out, or smear if you will, and we see a reality of predictability.

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