Using the Ontological argument to prove that I am God
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10-12-2014, 02:39 PM
Using the Ontological argument to prove that I am God
(I know this is obviously fallacious, I just think it's funny)

The Ontological argument

1. God is defined as a perfect being and the first of all things

2. Perfection implies existing

3. Therefore God exists

If we assume this reasoning is actually valid, it then follows

1. If a perfect being created something perfect, then it would have competition and something to challenge it's perfection, so a perfect being can't create a perfect being

2. If a perfect being created an imperfect being, it's creative abilities are imperfect and that is a contradiction.

Therefore

God can't create anything, therefore God is the only thing

1. Cogito ergo sum ( I think therefore I am)

2. God exists and is the only existing thing

therefore

Me and God must be the same entity to satisfy this

therefore

I am a perfect being, and I am God

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10-12-2014, 05:55 PM
RE: Using the Ontological argument to prove that I am God
(10-12-2014 02:39 PM)tear151 Wrote:  (I know this is obviously fallacious, I just think it's funny)

The Ontological argument

1. God is defined as a perfect being and the first of all things

2. Perfection implies existing

3. Therefore God exists

If we assume this reasoning is actually valid, it then follows

1. If a perfect being created something perfect, then it would have competition and something to challenge it's perfection, so a perfect being can't create a perfect being

2. If a perfect being created an imperfect being, it's creative abilities are imperfect and that is a contradiction.

Therefore

God can't create anything, therefore God is the only thing

1. Cogito ergo sum ( I think therefore I am)

2. God exists and is the only existing thing

therefore

Me and God must be the same entity to satisfy this

therefore

I am a perfect being, and I am God

Every bit as sound as William Lane Craig's reasoning. Thumbsup

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10-12-2014, 06:04 PM
RE: Using the Ontological argument to prove that I am God
Yeah sounds reasonable to me. How do you want me to worship you?
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10-12-2014, 06:15 PM
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(10-12-2014 06:04 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  Yeah sounds reasonable to me. How do you want me to worship you?

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10-12-2014, 06:18 PM
RE: Using the Ontological argument to prove that I am God
You need to post this on one of the nuttier religious forums to see what they say.

Do it. For great justice.

Soulless mutants of muscle and intent. There are billions of us; hardy, smart and dangerous. Shaped by millions of years of death. We are the definitive alpha predator. We build monsters of fire and stone. We bottled the sun. We nailed our god to a stick.

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10-12-2014, 06:18 PM
RE: Using the Ontological argument to prove that I am God
OK if you don't want to say then I'll wait for you to appear to me in a dream.

Of course I don't actually know what you look like so I will see what I dream of tonight and if I like it I'll go with that.
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10-12-2014, 07:53 PM
RE: Using the Ontological argument to prove that I am God
(10-12-2014 06:15 PM)tear151 Wrote:  
(10-12-2014 06:04 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  Yeah sounds reasonable to me. How do you want me to worship you?

Conga line every friday
Would that be something like this.....?

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10-12-2014, 09:30 PM
RE: Using the Ontological argument to prove that I am God
(10-12-2014 02:39 PM)tear151 Wrote:  (If a perfect being created something perfect, then it would have competition and something to challenge it's perfection, so a perfect being can't create a perfect being

An omnipotent being could figure a way around this. It means the being in question is subject to reality, not it's master. It could have created Reality to allow for this. A being that exists participates in existence, and by definition, not non-existence. Therefore as long as it existed, it was not the totality of Reality. Reality 'in toto" therefore remains unexplained. Where did non-existence come from ?

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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10-12-2014, 09:43 PM (This post was last modified: 10-12-2014 10:09 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Using the Ontological argument to prove that I am God
duplicate

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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10-12-2014, 10:31 PM
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(10-12-2014 09:43 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  duplicate

A perfect being wouldn't create a duplicate post...

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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