Poll: What is your opinion of Vaccines/Vaccine Policy?
Vaccines saved the world. Bring them on.
I don't entirely trust big pharma, but vaccines have done more good than harm.
Some vaccines are effective and useful. Some are not.
Vaccines are of questionable value, like many pharmaceuticals, but I might want one if an epidemic hits.
Vaccines cause more health problems than they prevent. Parents and individuals should have the right to refuse any/all of them.
Vaccines are part of a population-reduction conspiracy on the part of the global elite and are intended to sterilize/kill as many as possible.
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01-05-2014, 08:20 PM
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(01-05-2014 08:14 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(01-05-2014 07:43 PM)Magellan35 Wrote:  Are those persons and agencies the only ones who should form opinions based upon available information? Do you avoid looking at stars because Galileo and Sagan already handled that for you? Do none of us here have a right to an informed opinion -including you - because the authorities have them for us?

Beware that road.

LOL CONSPIRACY! Hobo


Fucking moron.

In what possible way does thinking for yourself make you a conspiracy theorist?

Abject trust in your masters makes you something, though: A puerile mutt.
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01-05-2014, 08:25 PM (This post was last modified: 01-05-2014 08:29 PM by rampant.a.i..)
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(01-05-2014 08:20 PM)Magellan35 Wrote:  
(01-05-2014 08:14 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  LOL CONSPIRACY! Hobo


Fucking moron.

In what possible way does thinking for yourself make you a conspiracy theorist?

Abject trust in your masters makes you something, though: A puerile mutt.

So you admit this is a conspiracy theory.

[Image: conspiracy-300x180.jpg]

Now: is it the NWO who are our masters, the Illuminati, or the lizard people?

“It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.”
― Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
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01-05-2014, 08:25 PM
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(01-05-2014 08:20 PM)Magellan35 Wrote:  
(01-05-2014 08:14 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  LOL CONSPIRACY! Hobo


Fucking moron.

In what possible way does thinking for yourself make you a conspiracy theorist?

Abject trust in your masters makes you something, though: A puerile mutt.

What you are advocating isn't "thinking for yourself", idiot. What you are advocating is Drinking the Kool-Aid -- in the worst sense of the term.

It's Special Pleadings all the way down!


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01-05-2014, 08:48 PM
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(01-05-2014 08:25 PM)rampant.a.i. Wrote:  
(01-05-2014 08:20 PM)Magellan35 Wrote:  In what possible way does thinking for yourself make you a conspiracy theorist?

Abject trust in your masters makes you something, though: A puerile mutt.

So you admit this is a conspiracy theory.

[Image: conspiracy-300x180.jpg]

Now: is it the NWO who are our masters, the Illuminati, or the lizard people?

You are a strange little man.

I take everything with a grain of salt from authorities, recognizing that they are fallible and history is full of folly. Authorities are useful, and I am neither an anarchist nor solipsistic. I am quite happy to live in an age when we are free to question, and I would not have enjoyed living during the Inquisition. You, on the other hand, just might have made it to bishop.
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01-05-2014, 09:18 PM
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
Not me. I would have had fun then.
I would need to be a cardinal tho. I prefer red dresses to purple ones.




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01-05-2014, 09:18 PM
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Freedom to question is all well and good; adhering to irrational beliefs in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, while failing to substantiate your beliefs as congruent with reality, is more a defining factor of religion.

So is this persecution complex you seem to have constructed as a defense against objections that your beliefs don't align with reality. You're so far off the board that you're in YEC and Flat Earther territory, and like both groups abandon demonstrating your beliefs as true and revert to hostile indignation, accusations and complaints of persecution if your beliefs are not accepted outright.

This whole thread reads like an AiG page on how evolution is "faulty science."

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01-05-2014, 10:34 PM
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(01-05-2014 09:18 PM)rampant.a.i. Wrote:  Freedom to question is all well and good; adhering to irrational beliefs in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, while failing to substantiate your beliefs as congruent with reality, is more a defining factor of religion.

So is this persecution complex you seem to have constructed as a defense against objections that your beliefs don't align with reality. You're so far off the board that you're in YEC and Flat Earther territory, and like both groups abandon demonstrating your beliefs as true and revert to hostile indignation, accusations and complaints of persecution if your beliefs are not accepted outright.

This whole thread reads like an AiG page on how evolution is "faulty science."

I'm thrilled that you think you have me pegged. I needed a chuckle.

At least a few people here have rebutted my arguments with a demand for sound empirical data. Others have brought mainstream views to the table from mainstream sources. You bring what? Tired attempts at profiling?

Won't you even try?
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01-05-2014, 10:44 PM (This post was last modified: 01-05-2014 11:00 PM by sporehux.)
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
What I see :
Very transparent internationally agreed upon health endeavour along with, semi transparent big pharma companies that are forced to work within this framework and are subject to the exposure this entails.

Thousand of individual government agencies in power around the world at the whim of their voting public, that are bearing the responsibilty and blame for vaccination issues.
thousands of doctors that have the autonomy to reports issues to anyone, the press if need be.
thousands of scientists whose research is directly related or overlaps with the medical science in immunology working daily in the improvement of vax and mitigation of adverse reactions.
Big pharma scientists on the cutting edge of new vax technology that would value their lifetime reputation above corrupt science that could not escape exposure forever.
and a tiny % of exception to what I have stated above.

what magellan thinks; (strawman used for creative purposes)

it's an amoral cluster fu*ck with everyone out for self interest and profit, with all parties colluding with the big pharma.
implying that deception is used to not only coverup deaths and disablement of children but the continutation of it for profit.


which one of us is a conspiracy theorist ?

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01-05-2014, 10:45 PM
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(01-05-2014 08:25 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(01-05-2014 08:20 PM)Magellan35 Wrote:  In what possible way does thinking for yourself make you a conspiracy theorist?

Abject trust in your masters makes you something, though: A puerile mutt.

What you are advocating isn't "thinking for yourself", idiot. What you are advocating is Drinking the Kool-Aid -- in the worst sense of the term.

Mmmm, Kool-Aid...can I get mine in a syringe?

Drooling

Wait, was that comment too pointed?
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02-05-2014, 12:01 AM (This post was last modified: 02-05-2014 12:07 AM by Tartarus Sauce.)
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
It always strikes me how conspiracy theorists increasingly lose sight on proportionality and consequences the more rabid they become in their attacks against those who they view as the conspirators.

"It immunizes us from killer diseases? NOT WORTH IT CUZ CHANCE OF AUTISM!!!! GET MAD AT BIG PHARMA! GET MAD AT GOVERNMENT! SHEEPLE, TOOLS, DRONES, STOP TRUSTING ORGANIZATIONS UNRELATED TO BIG PHARMA BECAUSE THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY RELATED TO BIG PHARMA! TRUST IN SPURIOUS RESEARCH WITH NO PEER REVIEW CUZ IT ONLY STUFF NOT CONTROLLED BY ILLIMUNATI! Y U NO USE BRAIN?

Well I guess that's one way to make enough noise to get the whole inconvenient "it immunizes us from widespread, killer diseases" out of the way. God forbid we ever suppress killer microbes from entering our systems. We gotta focus on bigger things, like Big Pharma and minor flare-ups from vaccines which end up doing no substantial harm.

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