Poll: What is your opinion of Vaccines/Vaccine Policy?
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I don't entirely trust big pharma, but vaccines have done more good than harm.
Some vaccines are effective and useful. Some are not.
Vaccines are of questionable value, like many pharmaceuticals, but I might want one if an epidemic hits.
Vaccines cause more health problems than they prevent. Parents and individuals should have the right to refuse any/all of them.
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04-05-2014, 05:35 PM
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(04-05-2014 05:30 PM)Magellan35 Wrote:  
(04-05-2014 05:26 PM)Chas Wrote:  Except people still do get those diseases because of anti-vaccination fuckheads.
Sources please. Let's see how they hold up.

This.

And this.

And this.

And this.

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04-05-2014, 08:57 PM (This post was last modified: 05-05-2014 08:54 AM by Taqiyya Mockingbird.)
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(04-05-2014 03:01 AM)Magellan35 Wrote:  
(04-05-2014 12:04 AM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  Anyone who actually reads the link can tell that you didn't read this shit.



Operative word highlighted. Strawman defeated.

You got that one backwards, Taq.

Not at all. You see, just because you say something doesn't make it true. You have a problem discerning your fantasies from reality. I truly hope you are lying through your fucking teeth when you claim to be a "journalist".


Quote:Look around the internet and you'll see that I'm responding to the straw man put up by the media almost invariably when there is an outbreak, namely that unvaccinated people are to blame.

And you're right....strawman defeated. Just not the one you meant.

This is your idea of meeting your burden of proof? -- flaccid attempts at bluster and "Look around the internet LOL!".

Go fuck yourself. You haven't "defeated" anything at all.

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04-05-2014, 09:02 PM
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(04-05-2014 05:16 PM)Magellan35 Wrote:  
(04-05-2014 04:54 PM)Magellan35 Wrote:  "more people now die or suffer morbidity from vaccine-induced health problems than would die if we stopped vaccinating and encouraged better diet and exercise "

I can't prove that statement, but I stand by it. You only think you can prove its opposite blah blah blah...

Assertions without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.


You are just as fucking bad as any theist apologist: "I can't prove it, but I stand by it because reasons."


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04-05-2014, 09:31 PM
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04-05-2014, 09:36 PM
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(04-05-2014 09:31 PM)Charis Wrote:  Oh.
My.
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You and your GIFs! I have to say, you have the best GIFs.

I think the Cactus was a little overboard , Big Grin

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04-05-2014, 09:40 PM
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Conspiracy theories are a dime a dozen.

I don't give a flying fuck what any "certified looking" document, article, or well-known person is saying about vaccines. I know that there are diseases returning, that we had completely eradicated. Deadly diseases!


I know there can always be complications from vaccines, but as a mom, I weighed the benefits, with the risks. It - wasn't - even - a - close - call.

People die every single day in car accidents, but we don't stop taking our children out in the car, because of that risk. So, why would anyone leave their child defenseless against a deadly disease?

Each parent does have the right to choose whether or not to vaccinate, but I wonder how any parent would feel, if one day their child brings home a letter from the school warning that there has been an outbreak, and their child has been exposed to TB, or diptheria, polio, or rubella?

The way things are going, I'm afraid that scenario will indeed happen one day. No

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04-05-2014, 09:49 PM
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(04-05-2014 05:16 PM)Magellan35 Wrote:  
(04-05-2014 04:54 PM)Magellan35 Wrote:  "more people now die or suffer morbidity from vaccine-induced health problems than would die if we stopped vaccinating and encouraged better diet and exercise "

I can't prove that statement, but I stand by it. You only think you can prove its opposite (because you don't seem to understand the impact of improving baseline health and nutrition; my evidence is your comments, this thread). We are therefore at an impasse.

'Cause I said so is not all that compelling an argument.

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04-05-2014, 10:05 PM
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(04-05-2014 09:36 PM)sporehux Wrote:  
(04-05-2014 09:31 PM)Charis Wrote:  Oh.
My.
God.
That.
GIF.

You and your GIFs! I have to say, you have the best GIFs.

I think the Cactus was a little overboard , Big Grin

That's tame. Usually, it's "In the Ass. With a cactus. Wrapped in barbed wire. Smothered with habanero sauce."

Buuuuuut....to each their own....

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04-05-2014, 10:08 PM
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(04-05-2014 09:40 PM)CindysRain Wrote:  Conspiracy theories are a dime a dozen.

I don't give a flying fuck what any "certified looking" document, article, or well-known person is saying about vaccines.

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04-05-2014, 11:58 PM
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