Poll: What is your opinion of Vaccines/Vaccine Policy?
Vaccines saved the world. Bring them on.
I don't entirely trust big pharma, but vaccines have done more good than harm.
Some vaccines are effective and useful. Some are not.
Vaccines are of questionable value, like many pharmaceuticals, but I might want one if an epidemic hits.
Vaccines cause more health problems than they prevent. Parents and individuals should have the right to refuse any/all of them.
Vaccines are part of a population-reduction conspiracy on the part of the global elite and are intended to sterilize/kill as many as possible.
[Show Results]
 
Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
Post Reply
 
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Votes - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
07-05-2014, 12:00 PM (This post was last modified: 07-05-2014 12:04 PM by Cathym112.)
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
http://streaming.cdc.gov/vod.php?id=7ffe...4104432647

This is what Whooping cough sounds like. And yes, Children die from this.

Now, Are you going to seriously tell me that this kid just needs a few more fruits and veggies and can combat this? It leaves PERMANENT SCAR tissue in the lungs.

hot off the presses, less than 1 hour ago.

Infant dies from whooping cough

This was COMPLETELY preventable everyone in contact with this child had been vaccinated. This is the first death from whooping cough in years. Why? Because until recently, contracting whooping cough was rare (thanks to vaccines)

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day - Bill Watterson
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes Cathym112's post
07-05-2014, 12:06 PM
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(07-05-2014 11:36 AM)Cathym112 Wrote:  
(07-05-2014 11:32 AM)Magellan35 Wrote:  Now we're using Outbreak as evidence?

In Monte Python and the Holy Grail, all you need is a Grail for eternal life, so there's that...

Who the fuck said anything about me using a movie for evidence? I looked back at the comments. Nope. Not once did I say it was evidence. Can you read?

Pathogens do not create symptoms, morbidity, or mortality uniformly in those who have been exposed. You need to stop oversimplifying infectious disease causality and figure out why; not for me, but for yourself.

Do you believe vaccines deserve the lion's share of the credit for the reduction in morbidity/mortality in developed nations? If so, say so plainly.

You are a data analyst, so analyze the data. What other factors have minimized the occurrence and severity of infectious disease in developed nations since the beginning the 20th century?

I'll give you a hint: All infectious disease has plummeted in severity (and occurrence) in the developed world, regardless of whether on not vaccination exists for the pathogen. You can rely upon what you've been told in the past and learn nothing or think about the data at hand and draw conclusions that might improve your odds of making it to old age.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
07-05-2014, 12:09 PM
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
Here we go....again...

[Image: h499EF70F]

Popcorn

See here they are the bruises some were self-inflicted and some showed up along the way. - JF
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 2 users Like Anjele's post
07-05-2014, 12:11 PM
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(07-05-2014 12:00 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  http://streaming.cdc.gov/vod.php?id=7ffe...4104432647

This is what Whooping cough sounds like. And yes, Children die from this.

Now, Are you going to seriously tell me that this kid just needs a few more fruits and veggies and can combat this? It leaves PERMANENT SCAR tissue in the lungs.

hot off the presses, less than 1 hour ago.

Infant dies from whooping cough

This was COMPLETELY preventable everyone in contact with this child had been vaccinated. This is the first death from whooping cough in years. Why? Because until recently, contracting whooping cough was rare (thanks to vaccines)

Psst, your confirmation bias is showing...

http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...rotection/
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
07-05-2014, 12:13 PM (This post was last modified: 07-05-2014 12:17 PM by Cathym112.)
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(07-05-2014 12:11 PM)Magellan35 Wrote:  
(07-05-2014 12:00 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  http://streaming.cdc.gov/vod.php?id=7ffe...4104432647

This is what Whooping cough sounds like. And yes, Children die from this.

Now, Are you going to seriously tell me that this kid just needs a few more fruits and veggies and can combat this? It leaves PERMANENT SCAR tissue in the lungs.

hot off the presses, less than 1 hour ago.

Infant dies from whooping cough

This was COMPLETELY preventable everyone in contact with this child had been vaccinated. This is the first death from whooping cough in years. Why? Because until recently, contracting whooping cough was rare (thanks to vaccines)

Psst, your confirmation bias is showing...

http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...rotection/

Ppppstt. No it isn't. Your inability to understand what you read is your problem.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2013/...-refusals/

Let me help you: "The lower level of protection offered by the current vaccine, however, does not mean it isn’t effective, says Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. “You’re still eightfold less likely to get pertussis if you’ve gotten the acellular vaccine than if you didn’t,” he says. “It’s an imperfect vaccine, but it’s the best that we have.”"

And at no point does your article state that the vaccine caused an outbreak. Thumbsup Good try, buddy.

You are the Jenny McCarthy of science right now. Big titted, and dumb as a box of fucking rocks. But at least you are pretty. Drooling

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day - Bill Watterson
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes Cathym112's post
07-05-2014, 12:25 PM
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(07-05-2014 12:13 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  
(07-05-2014 12:11 PM)Magellan35 Wrote:  Psst, your confirmation bias is showing...

http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...rotection/

Ppppstt. No it isn't. Your inability to understand what you read is your problem.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2013/...-refusals/

Let me help you: "The lower level of protection offered by the current vaccine, however, does not mean it isn’t effective, says Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. “You’re still eightfold less likely to get pertussis if you’ve gotten the acellular vaccine than if you didn’t,” he says. “It’s an imperfect vaccine, but it’s the best that we have.”"

And at no point does your article state that the vaccine caused an outbreak. Thumbsup Good try, buddy.

You are the Jenny McCarthy of science right now. Big titted, and dumb as a box of fucking rocks. But at least you are pretty. Drooling
Quoting Paul Offit is the best way I can think of to demonstrate confirmation bias, as his conflicts of interest are blatant.

If you want to really understand the pertussis vaccine failure, you're going to need to read. A lot. Like I did.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
07-05-2014, 12:30 PM
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(07-05-2014 12:25 PM)Magellan35 Wrote:  
(07-05-2014 12:13 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  Ppppstt. No it isn't. Your inability to understand what you read is your problem.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2013/...-refusals/

Let me help you: "The lower level of protection offered by the current vaccine, however, does not mean it isn’t effective, says Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. “You’re still eightfold less likely to get pertussis if you’ve gotten the acellular vaccine than if you didn’t,” he says. “It’s an imperfect vaccine, but it’s the best that we have.”"

And at no point does your article state that the vaccine caused an outbreak. Thumbsup Good try, buddy.

You are the Jenny McCarthy of science right now. Big titted, and dumb as a box of fucking rocks. But at least you are pretty. Drooling
Quoting Paul Offit is the best way I can think of to demonstrate confirmation bias, as his conflicts of interest are blatant.

If you want to really understand the pertussis vaccine failure, you're going to need to read. A lot. Like I did.

I quoted the fucking article that YOU CITED, my little playboy bunny. You cited an article, than when I pointed out that your article didn't support your claim, you tried to assert that I am demonstrating confirmation bias by quoting the article YOU CITED? Your logic - if you can even call it that - is DEEPLY flawed. But you did a better job at disproving yourself than I ever could.

I tip my hat to you. Yes

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day - Bill Watterson
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes Cathym112's post
07-05-2014, 12:37 PM
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(07-05-2014 11:38 AM)Magellan35 Wrote:  
(07-05-2014 10:23 AM)cjlr Wrote:  See, what you've done there is, you've not understood.

Prove it.

YOU are proving it for us with every post. Keep talking, idiot.

It's Special Pleadings all the way down!


Magic Talking Snakes STFU -- revenantx77


You can't have your special pleading and eat it too. -- WillHop
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
07-05-2014, 12:38 PM
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(07-05-2014 12:30 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  
(07-05-2014 12:25 PM)Magellan35 Wrote:  Quoting Paul Offit is the best way I can think of to demonstrate confirmation bias, as his conflicts of interest are blatant.

If you want to really understand the pertussis vaccine failure, you're going to need to read. A lot. Like I did.

I quoted the fucking article that YOU CITED, my little playboy bunny. You cited an article, than when I pointed out that your article didn't support your claim, you tried to assert that I am demonstrating confirmation bias by quoting the article YOU CITED? Your logic - if you can even call it that - is DEEPLY flawed. But you did a better job at disproving yourself than I ever could.

I tip my hat to you. Yes

You quote mined the article to find a bad source to confirm your bias.

I cited the article in response to your implication that lack of vaccination is somehow to blame for recent pertussis deaths. Twice now you've pointed out that everyone around a death or illness was vaccinated, as though it is evidence that everyone should be vaccinated. Say what?!


You are nowhere near as pretty as me.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
07-05-2014, 12:43 PM (This post was last modified: 07-05-2014 12:46 PM by Cathym112.)
RE: Vaccine (Public Health) Policy Needs to Be Challenged
(07-05-2014 12:38 PM)Magellan35 Wrote:  
(07-05-2014 12:30 PM)Cathym112 Wrote:  I quoted the fucking article that YOU CITED, my little playboy bunny. You cited an article, than when I pointed out that your article didn't support your claim, you tried to assert that I am demonstrating confirmation bias by quoting the article YOU CITED? Your logic - if you can even call it that - is DEEPLY flawed. But you did a better job at disproving yourself than I ever could.

I tip my hat to you. Yes

You quote mined the article to find a bad source to confirm your bias.

I cited the article in response to your implication that lack of vaccination is somehow to blame for recent pertussis deaths. Twice now you've pointed out that everyone around a death or illness was vaccinated, as though it is evidence that everyone should be vaccinated. Say what?!


You are nowhere near as pretty as me.


Uh no, sweetheart. The ENTIRE article that YOU CITED failed to support your claim. You didn't read it, did you? You just read the title and assumed that it supported your claim. Its ok. We alllll make those rookie mistakes. Here is a tip for you.

Don't come onto TTA, post a link to an article and then assume no one will read past the title. The people here are a fuck of a lot smarter than you, darling.

You have no idea what I look like, so how do you know whose prettier? Further, you missed my entire riff that you were the Jenny McCarthy of Science right now. But, if you insist, it's a good thing you are pretty. Because you don't have much else going for you in terms of smarts. You and the playboy bunny better take advantage of your youth...the younger ones always manage to overthrow the older.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day - Bill Watterson
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply
Forum Jump: