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27-08-2013, 02:12 PM
Vaccines related to autism?
I was presented with this argument earlier today and was wondering what your thoughts are on this matter and if you have information that you could provide please do.

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27-08-2013, 02:43 PM
RE: Vaccines related to autism?
http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/aut...index.html

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27-08-2013, 02:47 PM
RE: Vaccines related to autism?
There is no link. The only paper that claimed to have found one, was redacted and its author discredited after 1) the results couldn't be replicated 2) it was found that the participants had a financial interest in the conclusion of a link as they were involved in a lawsuit against a pharmaceutical company and 3) the author also had a financial interest in his conclusion as he had a patent for a vaccine out that would benefit from a scare with the current vaccine.

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27-08-2013, 03:43 PM
RE: Vaccines related to autism?
(27-08-2013 02:47 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  There is no link. The only paper that claimed to have found one, was redacted and its author discredited after 1) the results couldn't be replicated 2) it was found that the participants had a financial interest in the conclusion of a link as they were involved in a lawsuit against a pharmaceutical company and 3) the author also had a financial interest in his conclusion as he had a patent for a vaccine out that would benefit from a scare with the current vaccine.
Could you post your source for this?

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27-08-2013, 03:46 PM
RE: Vaccines related to autism?
Look at this.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/AutismNews/...id=9730805

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27-08-2013, 03:49 PM
RE: Vaccines related to autism?
(27-08-2013 03:43 PM)sequoyah Wrote:  
(27-08-2013 02:47 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  There is no link. The only paper that claimed to have found one, was redacted and its author discredited after 1) the results couldn't be replicated 2) it was found that the participants had a financial interest in the conclusion of a link as they were involved in a lawsuit against a pharmaceutical company and 3) the author also had a financial interest in his conclusion as he had a patent for a vaccine out that would benefit from a scare with the current vaccine.
Could you post your source for this?

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27-08-2013, 03:57 PM
RE: Vaccines related to autism?
Short answer: no.

Long answer: also no.

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27-08-2013, 05:52 PM
RE: Vaccines related to autism?
(27-08-2013 03:43 PM)sequoyah Wrote:  
(27-08-2013 02:47 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  There is no link. The only paper that claimed to have found one, was redacted and its author discredited after 1) the results couldn't be replicated 2) it was found that the participants had a financial interest in the conclusion of a link as they were involved in a lawsuit against a pharmaceutical company and 3) the author also had a financial interest in his conclusion as he had a patent for a vaccine out that would benefit from a scare with the current vaccine.
Could you post your source for this?

See the link in my post. It explains what TBD said in greater detail.

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27-08-2013, 06:26 PM
RE: Vaccines related to autism?
Ten years back, I went to loads of presentations / seminars etc. organised by highly qualified people and the evidence seemed strong that the individual vaccines were not the problem but the binding agent in the combination drug was insufficiently tested.

Even saw copies of emails from the head of the US testing agency to his son, urging that his new grandchild should not be given the combined drug. Tony Blair's refusal to disclose what he had chosen for his new baby (separate / combined / no vaccine) was also dodgy particularly when there was 'coincidentally' a new law protecting minister's privacy rushed through parliament.

It would appear that there was lots of correlation but no proof of causation.

Actual cause.... still waiting.

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27-08-2013, 06:54 PM
RE: Vaccines related to autism?
It seems that the mercury found in the vaccinations is what people are claiming to be the cause pf autism.

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