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30-12-2012, 08:29 AM
RE: Veganism Is Fucking Retarded
Andreas Munzer knows a thing or two about bodyfat. Of course, he wound up in a very early grave.

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30-12-2012, 08:32 AM
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That man is truly a horrifying specimen indeed.


As far as I am concerned: That shit aint right!

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30-12-2012, 08:33 AM
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(29-12-2012 09:36 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  In a world of genocide, rape and extortion, you focus your emotional and cognitive energies on fighting against vegans. Why? There is definitely some craziness in the vegan communities, One person I spoke to was raising her cat on a vegan diet- it dies 2 months later. The Socialist hippie types I am against as well, but I don't think someone eating fruit and salads is much urgency in the world of things that must be stopped..
Because people who are victims of genocide, rape, and extortion don't cry anywhere near as much or as loud as you crazy vegans.
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30-12-2012, 08:38 AM
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(30-12-2012 08:32 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  That man is truly a horrifying specimen indeed.


As far as I am concerned: That shit aint right!
His philosophy was to show up as shredded as possible. Even at the expense of being flat. That's what makes his muscle fibers look so stringy. His true bodyfat was probably somewhere in the 2 or 3 % range.
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30-12-2012, 09:05 AM
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(30-12-2012 08:19 AM)germanyt Wrote:  I think veganism and even vegetarianism is some sort of genetic defect in the brain that causes an overactive sense of empathy for animals.


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That's BS IMO.

I have equal empathy for all mammals, and birds too. If they have a hormonal and nervous system, they are like us. Or rather, we are just one of them.

I eat meat.

People have lost respect and empathy for animals because they are totally disconnected. If you were forced to watch the goings on in a modern day slaughter house you would be shocked and your adrenalin would rush, then grow calloused because the pain you see is unbearable. That is not the way it's supposed to be, and it's one of the reasons so many people turn to one of the veggie diets.

The way people treat their fellow mammals these days is disgusting at best, and it didn't use to be that way.

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30-12-2012, 09:15 AM
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(30-12-2012 09:05 AM)Dom Wrote:  People have lost respect and empathy for animals because they are totally disconnected. If you were forced to watch the goings on in a modern day slaughter house you would be shocked and your adrenalin would rush, then grow calloused because the pain you see is unbearable.
I beg to differ. I've been to a slaughter house several times and had no such reaction.
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30-12-2012, 09:17 AM
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(30-12-2012 09:05 AM)Dom Wrote:  
(30-12-2012 08:19 AM)germanyt Wrote:  I think veganism and even vegetarianism is some sort of genetic defect in the brain that causes an overactive sense of empathy for animals.


srs


That's BS IMO.

I have equal empathy for all mammals, and birds too. If they have a hormonal and nervous system, they are like us. Or rather, we are just one of them.

I eat meat.

People have lost respect and empathy for animals because they are totally disconnected. If you were forced to watch the goings on in a modern day slaughter house you would be shocked and your adrenalin would rush, then grow calloused because the pain you see is unbearable. That is not the way it's supposed to be, and it's one of the reasons so many people turn to one of the veggie diets.

The way people treat their fellow mammals these days is disgusting at best, and it didn't use to be that way.
I know exactly what happens in a slaughterhouse. I'm having pork spare ribs tonight.

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30-12-2012, 09:27 AM
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(30-12-2012 09:17 AM)germanyt Wrote:  
(30-12-2012 09:05 AM)Dom Wrote:  That's BS IMO.

I have equal empathy for all mammals, and birds too. If they have a hormonal and nervous system, they are like us. Or rather, we are just one of them.

I eat meat.

People have lost respect and empathy for animals because they are totally disconnected. If you were forced to watch the goings on in a modern day slaughter house you would be shocked and your adrenalin would rush, then grow calloused because the pain you see is unbearable. That is not the way it's supposed to be, and it's one of the reasons so many people turn to one of the veggie diets.

The way people treat their fellow mammals these days is disgusting at best, and it didn't use to be that way.

I know exactly what happens in a slaughterhouse. I'm having pork spare ribs tonight.


Knowing does not equal being there.

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30-12-2012, 09:44 AM
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(29-12-2012 09:55 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  
(29-12-2012 09:45 PM)amyb Wrote:  I had a health professor who said it took her brother decades before he started to get really sick from his vegan diet (deficiencies caused by it). Before that he appeared generally healthy and ended up in the hospital a lot until he started eating a more balanced diet. It's kind of like my brother. He eats only pizza and fried food, but he's only 22 so his poor diet hasn't gotten a chance to catch up with him yet.

Putting a cat on a vegan diet is just cruel, because they are obligate carnivores.
Being vegan doesn't guarantee health, the quality/quantity of nutrition you get is most important. To be honest meat is mostly irrelevant- The amount of macro nutrients you get is the most important- which is why I tell people to eat a carbohydrate/glucose rich diet and be veggie/vegan if you want to go the extra mile.


It really doesn't. I work with a vegan and she is ALWAYS sick. Not because she isn't getting enough nutrients, but because she is always eating junk. Chips for breakfast, grilled cheese for lunch, more chips, cake, cupcakes, cookies. She misses 3-4 days a month. She is always having hormone problems, stomach issues, liver problems (probably because she gets drunk every other night, and she's a "drugs are stupid" girl).

I tried the vegan thing for a while, and I was getting protein and all my vital minerals and vitamins.

See, the thing is, I have a love affair with bacon. I cannot and will not be eating turkey bacon or any kind of bacon facsimile. They suck.

I do like tofurky pizzas though. Strange that they taste pretty good.

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30-12-2012, 10:37 AM
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(30-12-2012 09:27 AM)Dom Wrote:  
(30-12-2012 09:17 AM)germanyt Wrote:  I know exactly what happens in a slaughterhouse. I'm having pork spare ribs tonight.


Knowing does not equal being there.
Have you been to a slaughter house? If so, how many times? I have been to one several times, and I am not what you describe. I acknowledge animals have nervous systems, and that they are living organisms. My only question is why people put so much value on only certain types of organisms. You do not, at all, show an equal amount of empathy for all organisms. Do you really care about flies, ants, and other insects? You care just as much about the small rodents that chew the wires in your car? Really? No, you fucking don't.

I do not share the amount of empathy you have for cattle. I think they should have a reasonably comfortable life prior to their being slaughtered, but I do not think they should be spared their ultimate end. Everyone here is so willing to accept evolution, but they are so unwilling to accept the reality all creatures are subjected to. Many say that our owning cattle, the artificial selection we put them through, is unnatural. I'd say it is natural. Like you said, we are like them in many regards. What is to say, given that we were not so fortunate, that other species would not have evolved to the same capable level and do the same things? All animals, if they could, would own and devour animals if it benefits them.

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