Veridican Argument for the Existence of God
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28-04-2013, 01:59 PM
 
Veridican Argument for the Existence of God
The purpose of me posting this is to vet it and work out the kinks. That means there are going to be some kinks, and I may be wrong. The argument may fail. I don't know at this point. So, I'll start. The idea came to me suddenly on Saturday, April 27, 2013, at 2:40 a.m. Here's the start of it.

Part one: Establishing Axioms

1. If something is unreal, it cannot support something that is real.

That is to say the unicorn's horn cannot be real, if the unicorn is not real. The ground the unicorn walks on cannot be real, if the unicorn is not real. The air around the unicorn cannot be real if the unicorn is not real, and so on.

2. Perception proves its reality.

That is to say that no matter if everything else is an illusion, if the illusion is perceived, that which perceives it must be real.
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28-04-2013, 03:50 PM
RE: Veridican Argument for the Existence of God
If I look into the dark, and my cat's eyes are glowing, but I perceive it to be a Jaguar with a gun, that doesn't mean it's real. It means I think it's real, when in reality it is not a jaguar with a gun.

If there is nothing and you see God, that doesn't mean there is God, it means you think God is there and real.

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28-04-2013, 04:08 PM
RE: Veridican Argument for the Existence of God
(28-04-2013 01:59 PM)Egor Wrote:  The purpose of me posting this is to vet it and work out the kinks. That means there are going to be some kinks, and I may be wrong. The argument may fail. I don't know at this point. So, I'll start. The idea came to me suddenly on Saturday, April 27, 2013, at 2:40 a.m. Here's the start of it.

Okay, lets see how this plays out.

(28-04-2013 01:59 PM)Egor Wrote:  Part one: Establishing Axioms

1. If something is unreal, it cannot support something that is real.

Hmm, not entirely sure on that, lets keep trekking on though.

(28-04-2013 01:59 PM)Egor Wrote:  That is to say the unicorn's horn cannot be real, if the unicorn is not real.

Seems reasonable enough.

(28-04-2013 01:59 PM)Egor Wrote:  The ground the unicorn walks on cannot be real, if the unicorn is not real.

Hold on a second, can't a fictional character like the unicorn or Jewsus be said to walk on land which is in fact a real place, therefore the character does not exist but the ground does?

(28-04-2013 01:59 PM)Egor Wrote:  The air around the unicorn cannot be real if the unicorn is not real, and so on.

I suppose that could be said to be true.

(28-04-2013 01:59 PM)Egor Wrote:  2. Perception proves its reality.

That is to say that no matter if everything else is an illusion, if the illusion is perceived, that which perceives it must be real.

No, perception does not prove reality, only what one thinks they saw, heard, smelled, felt. What perception does, in a limited manner, prove is that a reality does in fact exist, it cannot be guaranteed that it is entirely what you think it appears to be.
This reality could be a simulation for all we can know.

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28-04-2013, 04:11 PM
RE: Veridican Argument for the Existence of God
Why are there two threads with the same title started by the same person?


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28-04-2013, 04:15 PM
RE: Veridican Argument for the Existence of God
(28-04-2013 04:11 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  Why are there two threads with the same title started by the same person?

Perseveration.

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