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01-06-2014, 09:16 PM
RE: Veritas?
(31-05-2014 12:51 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(31-05-2014 12:50 PM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  Above wrong Jeremy post is wrong.

Beating people up is sadly not 'objectivly' wrong. Just resd history
/comparative sociology to see that..... Sad

Moving on...

Much cheers to all

yea....

and if i beat your loved one until their eyes fell out of their sockets you would say i had done nothing really wrong.

yea....

I really believe that.

You wouldn't even get close before I punch a great number of tremendous holes in your vital organs and your fucking face..

It's Special Pleadings all the way down!


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01-06-2014, 09:35 PM
RE: Veritas?
(31-05-2014 12:51 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  yea....

and if i beat your loved one until their eyes fell out of their sockets you would say i had done nothing really wrong.

yea....

I really believe that.

You REALLY have no clue do you. No one here has ever said anything remotely like that, you lying troll. Did Jebus tell you he likes it when you mischaracterize and project your juvenile presuppositions on others ?

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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01-06-2014, 09:38 PM (This post was last modified: 02-06-2014 11:42 AM by evenheathen.)
RE: Veritas?
(31-05-2014 05:03 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  yea....

and if i beat your loved one until their eyes fell out of their sockets you would say i had done nothing really wrong.

yea....

I really believe that.

Good point, which also points to the fact that mother bears should recognize and accept Jesus as their Lord and savior, because the instinct to protect your loved ones isn't in any way due to a naturally evolved sense of empathy. It's obviously due to the objective rules of a being existing outside of anything we can really know (for some reason we can know why it's important to protect our progeny, but will never know for certain whether the great mamma bear in the sky exists or not, we gotta go on "feels").

Your whole "atheism has to ignore morals" schtick is really old, dude.

But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.

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01-06-2014, 09:53 PM
RE: Veritas?
Right. So Walker is just JAQing off again with his bogus morality shtick? Good to know I didn't miss anything new and/or interesting...

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01-06-2014, 10:07 PM
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It's pretty clear that this toy is broken and should be tossed out. Drinking Beverage

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01-06-2014, 11:04 PM
RE: Veritas?
(01-06-2014 10:07 PM)Chas Wrote:  It's pretty clear that this toy is broken and should be tossed out. Drinking Beverage

What are you talking about? JW? How the hell is that applicable to JW? He keeps....

.... oh.

BROKEN.

I skimmed that as HOUSEBROKEN. Angel
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02-06-2014, 01:27 AM
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Just out of interest (but not much interest)... is JW a JW?

Also, would you throw out your pets' favourite chew toy just because it has lost its squeak?

Consider

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02-06-2014, 02:25 AM
RE: Veritas?
(01-06-2014 09:38 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  
(01-06-2014 09:16 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  yea....

and if i beat your loved one until their eyes fell out of their sockets you would say i had done nothing really wrong.

yea....

I really believe that.

Good point, which also points to the fact that mother bears should recognize and accept Jesus as their Lord and savior, because the instinct to protect your loved ones isn't in any way due to a naturally evolved sense of empathy. It's obviously due to the objective rules of a being existing outside of anything we can really know (for some reason we can know why it's important to protect our progeny, but will never know for certain whether the great mamma bear in the sky exists or not, we gotta go on "feels").

Your whole "atheism has to ignore morals" schtick is really old, dude.

-- AS FUCKING IF xtardianity had any claim whatsoever to any sort of "moral high ground". AS FUCKING IF.

It's Special Pleadings all the way down!


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02-06-2014, 04:53 AM
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02-06-2014, 07:03 AM
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Jeremy I showed you why your reasoning is subjective because of it's inward looking stance rather than being outward looking to the real world. Now I am going to prove to you that your Christian world view has nothing whatsoever to do with the truth.

I showed you how your Christian worldview contradicts the four axioms which the concept "objective truth" presupposes. Now I want you to prove any proposition you would like to choose, it doesn't have to be god, but any proposition but only using the tools your Christian "philosophy" gives you. I'm not going to let you steal from my philosophy any more. So here is my challenge:

Prove any proposition you would like to choose to be objectively true without using any of the following concepts:

Logic. You can't use logic because it presupposes the four axioms that your Christian worldview denies.

You can't use words. Words are symbols that represent concepts and concepts presuppose the four axioms that your Christian worldview denies.

You can make sounds as long as they don't convey any meaning since meaning presupposes the four axioms that your Christian worldview denies.

On second thought you can't use any sounds because sensory perception presupposes the four axioms that your Christian worldview denies.

That also means that you can't use body language either for the same reason.

You're left with mental telepathy to try to......oh, no that is out as well because that presupposes the concept "consciousness" that your Christian worldview denies exists.

OK are you ready to take the challenge? Let's go.

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