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20-08-2016, 01:16 PM (This post was last modified: 20-08-2016 02:08 PM by cactus.)
Vlogger goes to Pyongyang
These were so interesting to watch.
I'm amazed at how much stuff they were allowed to bring with them into North Korea. Laptops, cameras, surf boards, skate boards, etc.






In videos like this, there are always people commenting shit like "I'll bet that tour guide got executed for smiling and laughing too much with her tour group." Seriously though, is there any substance to these fear-mongering claims on this level? Sure, there was that woman who got executed for being in a porn film. Who knows, maybe KJU would consider this music video "porn", too. I can just picture him fapping to that woman on the surf board while pouring crumbs from a Cheetos bag into his mouth. Rolleyes

It almost makes me want to go. I'd totally steal a propaganda poster while there, too, just for shits and giggles Smile



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20-08-2016, 01:32 PM
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In one of the vlogs, he accidentally wandered into a restricted area of the beach, and he said the security guy was "pretty chill." He got lucky Drinking Beverage



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20-08-2016, 03:22 PM
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(20-08-2016 01:32 PM)cactus Wrote:  In one of the vlogs, he accidentally wandered into a restricted area of the beach, and he said the security guy was "pretty chill." He got lucky Drinking Beverage

Why was the area "restricted"? The basis for its restriction might have been a wildlife protection area (in which case they'd have no reason to get aggressive with him) or it might've been a defense zone, in which case his cameras might have revealed concealed missile sites or other emplacements, and they would have been more aggressive about it-- if you've ever seen how USAF Security Police react to people who "wander" into areas around our nuclear arsenal, you'll be amazed at how aggressive they are (and rightfully so). I've seen it first hand, done to an idiot highschool kid who wandered away from a group at a summer program on Barksdale AFB.

In the case of Laura Ling, she crossed a militarized international border (China and the DPRK have a somewhat tense relationship, though that varies over time) on a known human trafficking route. Yes, I think people should be able to flee the country to China, of course, but they get to set their own emigration laws, just as we do, and they certainly get to detain people who have crossed into their territory and then withdrawn back across the border with whatever information they may have gleaned. That's likely the subject of her interrogations.

Imagine, here in the USA, how we would react to a North Korean who visited here and wandered into a restricted military zone. Certainly, after watching Ms. Ling's testimony, there, I can't say that the DPRK was any more harsh on her than we in the USA are on border crossers, in places like Arizona.

Before anyone responds, I am not defending the fucking evil bastards in charge of that country, nor the systems they have set up to suppress their people in the name of their bizarre vision of a dictatorship-to-a-better-world. Fuck those guys and their system of labor (death) camps, and every other element of forced conformity at gunpoint that is part of their government's ideology. Here, I'm only pointing out that none of the actions depicted in Ms. Ling's video strike me as beyond what the US would do under similar circumstances, if the shoe was on the other foot.

I'm hoping guys like this surfer dude will slowly break through the Cold War hysteria and communist-dictatorship psychopathy that has locked that country into a forced-conformity nightmare. I just think that always looking at them in the worst possible light, without considering that our own behavior as a nation is often not so different as we'd like to think, helps to prevent seeing the humanity and potential that is there. How long it may take to break the psychological programming and get them to realize that their family-dynasty "great leader" is their enemy, and not outsiders, I cannot say, but only hope it is sooner rather than later.

Sorry for the rant... every so often, the humanist in me rises up. Heh.

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20-08-2016, 03:37 PM
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(20-08-2016 03:22 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  I'm hoping guys like this surfer dude will slowly break through the Cold War hysteria and communist-dictatorship psychopathy that has locked that country into a forced-conformity nightmare.

Yeah, I think trips like this are vital to improving relations with NK, considering that the main source of information for some of these people about the outside world comes in the form of deceitful propaganda.

Also, videos like this give the rest of the world a much needed look into the non-shitty parts of North Korean culture. Does it suck that tourism money is getting funneled into the pockets of the elite? Of course, but I really think the benefits of these international relations will outweigh the harm of stimulating North Korea's economy a little bit. I would definitely not suggest anyone travel there with the sole intent of sightseeing. It's about breaking barriers, one little piece at a time.

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20-08-2016, 08:04 PM
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I gotta say, I really wanna go to NK. If I could visit one place in the world I'd pick North Korea.
I mean the country is backwards as fuck, a freeze frame from the Cold War. I'd be like going back in time.
And that level of security and.. oppression.. it'd be fascinating to experience (which I know sounds weird).
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21-08-2016, 11:29 AM
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I bet you his room was bugged.
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21-08-2016, 09:51 PM
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(21-08-2016 11:29 AM)Lucipurr Wrote:  I bet you his room was bugged.

To be fair, I'd be willing to bet every room in North Korea is bugged.

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