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30-12-2012, 10:14 PM
Vote of No Confidence
...being a rant off pent-up bitchiness for the purpose of illustrating the need for an asshole moderator...

First up, fucking zipperhead unlimited...

(28-12-2012 09:56 PM)FSM_scot Wrote:  He was sent a pm about it and since it was sent he has not said a thing towards or about you.
I think you leaving is a total over reaction.

...followed by:

(29-12-2012 11:24 PM)FZUMedia Wrote:  tl;dr




What the fuck? This mofo should be gone. Finito., End of motherfucking story. There is no need to provide further examples.

The moderators around here were obviously selected through cronyism and not merit. However much I may like BC and Lilith-they're never fucking here. The Scot does his share, KC is just too nice, and
Hughsie - is fucking useless. And what is the motherfucking point of being a veteran and belonging to the secret squirrel club when you are asked for your opinion and get this:

(26-12-2012 07:06 PM)Erxomai Wrote:  The liking of this OP is akin to the first sign of Armageddon.

(27-12-2012 12:18 AM)Stark Raving Wrote:  Only because it's kind of obligatory to read these threads. Otherwise I never would have opened it.

(27-12-2012 09:47 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  /sigh

He hasn't done anything bannable.

But like Stark says, it ain't my motherfucking forum, cause I'm about outta here. Place is too big for self-moderation, and the way it's fucking headed - is to skanksville. Place needs a mod who is here and who is not afraid to be an asshole. What I'm saying.

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30-12-2012, 10:37 PM
RE: Vote of No Confidence
I really don't like FZU's type, the ones that pick on others. (Even though I do it, I'm pretty much a hypocrite I'm aware)

He hasn't did anything against the rules, but I think there needs to be a rule against people who aren't very useful to the forum, instead they just make it a tense place where everyone wants to leave.
I like free speech but I think a lot of the people here want a safe haven too.

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30-12-2012, 10:40 PM
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WTF are you talking about? He was told not to be a stalker, and he turns around and stalks in the very same fucking thread. How the fuck is that following the fucking rules?

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30-12-2012, 10:43 PM
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(30-12-2012 10:40 PM)houseofcantor Wrote:  WTF are you talking about? He was told not to be a stalker, and he turns around and stalks in the very same fucking thread. How the fuck is that following the fucking rules?
Being in the same thread? Mm, I s'pose it could be stalking but it's a little ...hard to tell. But you raise a valid point.

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30-12-2012, 11:41 PM
RE: Vote of No Confidence
Yip.

This place isn't the same place it was back in the day. It is much bigger, it is much different. We have vastly different types of people, old and young, female and male etc...

The ridged rules in place are not flexible enough to reflect the community which is ever changing.
The current rules may have worked back in the day but it's mind blowingly clear that they don't work now.
As Johnny just said, self moderation doesn't fucking work. Period.


As I suggested in my thread in the forum team section I believe mods need the power (and agree with John; the balls) to makes decisions on their own discretion and common sense, not un-flexible ridged rules.
"He isn't doing anything bannable" is just not good enough and is not working. It is forcing valued members out in favor of trolls in. You can say "grow a thick skin" but why should they?? They don't come on here to have to deal with the shit. They come for the food but stay for the people. Soon you're not gonna have any people.

aka, shit needs to change.

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31-12-2012, 12:37 AM
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Having mods go rogue isn't an answer either.

This is the whole point in a forum team and a set of rules to abide by.

A mod is entrusted with a level of authority... and when they abuse that authority... well... might as well throw out the rules and mod the way you feel is best.

Ban someone because you don't like them. Ban someone for trolling a friend. Ban, ban, ban.

Unsuccessful, closed, clique-ish communities are born this way. I come from one. I left it because it started to rot from the inside.

This forum isn't for everyone. But, EVERYONE deserves to be treated fairly... and according to the rules that we've established.

Everyone should know this but morality is relative. What you find offensive isn't offensive to some and vice versa. Rules are established to clearly define morality to prevent complete anarchy. However, if you piss on the rules, and let the ones with power abuse that power, you're no better off.

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31-12-2012, 01:01 AM
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I'm not talking about abusing power.
Obviously if a mod abuses his/her power then they should no longer have that power.

I'm just asking for mods to be able to use discretion and common sense.
Currently they can't because they have to abide to these very strict ridged rules.

And total anarchy? That is what we don't want but that is exactly what is happening!
There might as well be no rules what so ever and we can descend into 4chan-like status.

What we are saying KC is that you're right, rules provide protection from complete anarchy.
I see where Stark was going with these lax rules, and I like it, but that is not going to be achieved on the forums current course and the screws need to be tightened just a tad to keep it on the straight and narrow.

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31-12-2012, 01:05 AM
RE: Vote of No Confidence
You're right, Muffs. If mods abuse, they should lose.

And mods can use discretion and common sense, but banning isn't like moving a thread to the appropriate forum. They should be discussed with admin and the rest of the FT, and then a decision needs to be made... by the team... not one person.

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31-12-2012, 01:22 AM
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There is nothing to discuss. The rules are crystal clear. That's the probably. There is no option to have a discussion. That is why a common sense rule needs to be implemented so that meaningful discussion can occur without the veto of "clearly states no porn, no ban" which currently happens.

There's no wiggle room. There needs to be wiggle room.

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31-12-2012, 01:32 AM
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(31-12-2012 01:22 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  There is nothing to discuss. The rules are crystal clear. That's the probably. There is no option to have a discussion. That is why a common sense rule needs to be implemented so that meaningful discussion can occur without the veto of "clearly states no porn, no ban" which currently happens.

There's no wiggle room. There needs to be wiggle room.
And, I agree.

All of this was being talked about.

But, the "violation" was made with the current rule set... not some future one that hadn't come to fruition. A person can't be judged by things that aren't currently in existence.

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