WTF Happened to the "Feminism" Movement?
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28-02-2016, 01:02 PM
RE: WTF Happened to the "Feminism" Movement?
In the very first article I posted is this chart:
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The US is not the only country with a wage gap, some are better and some are worse.

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28-02-2016, 01:04 PM
RE: WTF Happened to the "Feminism" Movement?
(28-02-2016 12:57 PM)Vosur Wrote:  
(28-02-2016 12:52 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  As for the wage gap being a myth, that will be a surprise to a lot of researchers out there.

Doing a quick lit search on articles since 2015:
http://wol.iza.org/articles/wage-compres...y-gap/long
http://cje.oxfordjournals.org/content/39/2/537.short
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jac...b9e5f7.pdf
http://pubsonline.informs.org/doi/abs/10....2014.0558
Hey look, I can quote a bunch of sources that I haven't read as well!

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-wage-gap...1443654408
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/harvar...le/2580405
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-...73804.html
http://time.com/3222543/5-feminist-myths...l-not-die/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/...ed90b17c24

Funny how that works, huh? Laugh out load

I post peer-reviewed research, you post news articles.

It's like someone posting research on evolution, and someone else posting blog posts or news articles on ID. Facepalm


(are all the researchers just in on some elaborate femi-nazi conspiracy? Laughat )

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28-02-2016, 01:05 PM
RE: WTF Happened to the "Feminism" Movement?
(28-02-2016 01:01 PM)undergroundp Wrote:  Found it!

(21-01-2016 12:44 PM)undergroundp Wrote:  My English isn't cooperating right now and I can't find something specific, but I found this, in which you can find these interesting bits (with studies cited):

Gender beliefs are also cultural schemas for interpreting or making sense of the social world. As such, they represent what we think “most people” believe or accept as true about the categories of “men” and “women.” In North America, at least, men are widely thought to be more competent than women, except when performing “feminine” tasks (Conway, Pizzamiglio, and Mount 1996; Wagner and Berger 1997; Williams and Best 1990).

As we will see below, substantial evidence indicates that mathematical tasks are often stereotyped as “masculine” tasks. Even individuals who do not personally believe that men are more competent than women are likely aware that this belief exists in the culture and expect that others will treat them according to it. This expectation has been shown to modify behavior and bias judgments, as will be described below (Foschi 1996; Steele 1997).

Holding stereotypic beliefs about activities, such as mathematics, has been shown to influence the attitudes and career aspirations of young people (Eccles et al. 1999).

Recent research by Steele (1997) and Lovaglia et al. (1998) further suggest that when individuals know others expect people of their social category (e.g., women, African-Americans) to do relatively poorly on a task, this knowledge creates anxiety and actually leads to poorer performances.

The results of this study demonstrate that widely shared cultural beliefs attached to various tasks affect not only how individuals are channeled into particular activities and subsequent career trajectories by others, but also how individuals “self-select” into occupationally relevant activities.

(28-02-2016 12:57 PM)Hobbitgirl Wrote:  "so called" feminists? who decides who is a real feminist and who isnt?

Well, maybe I shouldn't have said that. I don't care much for labels anyway. The fact remains, however, that sexism does exist and sometimes it is not within our power to realize our biases and change things.

I need a link to a source. Not a quote of your own post that is snipped.
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28-02-2016, 01:05 PM
RE: WTF Happened to the "Feminism" Movement?
(28-02-2016 01:04 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  I post peer-reviewed research, you post news articles.

It's like someone posting research on evolution, and someone else posting blog posts or news articles on ID. Facepalm
You post peer-reviewed research that you haven't actually read, so there's that. You don't even know if they support your position, you just assume they do because they have the phrase "wage gap" in the title. That's the depth of your intellectual thinking. Laugh out load

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28-02-2016, 01:06 PM
RE: WTF Happened to the "Feminism" Movement?
(28-02-2016 01:05 PM)Vosur Wrote:  
(28-02-2016 01:04 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  I post peer-reviewed research, you post news articles.

It's like someone posting research on evolution, and someone else posting blog posts or news articles on ID. Facepalm
You post peer-reviewed research that you haven't actually read, so there's that. You don't even know if they support your position, you just assume they do because they have the phrase "pay gap" in the title. That's the depth of your intellectual thinking. Laugh out load

Facepalm

You're an asshole and a moron today it seems

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28-02-2016, 01:07 PM
RE: WTF Happened to the "Feminism" Movement?
(28-02-2016 01:02 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  In the very first article I posted is this chart:


The US is not the only country with a wage gap, some are better and some are worse.

Read my last post directed at you again. You either don't know what a wage gap is (it assumes sexism) or you haven't read your own sources..
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28-02-2016, 01:07 PM
RE: WTF Happened to the "Feminism" Movement?
(28-02-2016 01:05 PM)Vosur Wrote:  
(28-02-2016 01:04 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  I post peer-reviewed research, you post news articles.

It's like someone posting research on evolution, and someone else posting blog posts or news articles on ID. Facepalm
You post peer-reviewed research that you haven't actually read, so there's that. You don't even know if they support your position, you just assume they do because they have the phrase "pay gap" in the title. That's the depth of your intellectual thinking. Laugh out load

Here, I'll repost a summary figure from one of the articles

[attachment=3239]

Do you understand bar plots?

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28-02-2016, 01:08 PM
RE: WTF Happened to the "Feminism" Movement?
(28-02-2016 01:06 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  You're an asshole and a moron today it seems
Thanks for playing. Just like Heatheness, you lose. Drinking Beverage

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28-02-2016, 01:08 PM
RE: WTF Happened to the "Feminism" Movement?
(28-02-2016 01:07 PM)Gilgamesh Wrote:  
(28-02-2016 01:02 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  In the very first article I posted is this chart:


The US is not the only country with a wage gap, some are better and some are worse.

Read my last post directed at you again. You either don't know what a wage gap is (it assumes sexism) or you haven't read your own sources..

I don't respond to straw men. Someone claimed that the "wage gap is a myth" but it isn't. I don't care what your definition of a "wage gap" is.

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28-02-2016, 01:10 PM
RE: WTF Happened to the "Feminism" Movement?
(28-02-2016 01:08 PM)Vosur Wrote:  
(28-02-2016 01:06 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  You're an asshole and a moron today it seems
Thanks for playing. Just like Heatheness, you lose. Drinking Beverage

You do realize that asserting your opinion as correct without considering anything being pointed out to you that refutes your assertions, doesn't make you correct, right?

You should convert to christianity and take that tired ass attempt at an argument and use it to espouse your faith in ID. Wink

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