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09-10-2015, 03:02 PM
RE: Warm greetings
(09-10-2015 02:35 PM)The Germans are coming Wrote:  I find people who talk of themselves in third person to be obnoxious.

Depends on the context. When girly does it I find I don't mind.


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09-10-2015, 03:35 PM
RE: Warm greetings
(09-10-2015 02:35 PM)The Germans are coming Wrote:  I find people who talk of themselves in third person to be obnoxious.

Why you wanna fuck with Girly like that? Girly is not gonna be happy. You won't like Girly when he's not happy. Fucking Kraut. Angry

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09-10-2015, 03:40 PM
RE: Warm greetings
(09-10-2015 03:35 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(09-10-2015 02:35 PM)The Germans are coming Wrote:  I find people who talk of themselves in third person to be obnoxious.

Why you wanna fuck with Girly like that? Girly is not gonna be happy. You won't like Girly when he's not happy. Fucking Kraut. Angry

See what I mean??


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09-10-2015, 03:41 PM
RE: Warm greetings
(09-10-2015 03:35 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(09-10-2015 02:35 PM)The Germans are coming Wrote:  I find people who talk of themselves in third person to be obnoxious.

Why you wanna fuck with Girly like that? Girly is not gonna be happy. You won't like Girly when he's not happy. Fucking Kraut. Angry



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09-10-2015, 04:32 PM
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(09-10-2015 11:08 AM)Fr.Xavier Khan Wrote:  I see that you are not travelling,on the right path I am here to give you assistance to come to God.Smile

Fuck off. Drinking Beverage

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09-10-2015, 04:37 PM
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(09-10-2015 02:09 PM)Fr.Xavier Khan Wrote:  
(09-10-2015 01:28 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Well, even if he's gone, that pretty well sums up the disrespectful and insulting way these relious nuts appraoch sharing the "good news". What we are doing, Father Khan, is being honest. Totally honest. If by your post you are suggesting that honest people who have examined your religious nonsense form every angle possible, are somehow missing something, then you're wrong. Many of the people here know more about your faith and it's history than you do. They reject it. Totally honestly. They don't buy it. Get it ? It's not about "moral failing" (of any kind). If your god is so damn stupid, that he doesn't even know why non-believers honestly rejsect the notion of his/her existence, then you really need to find a smarter deity.

"No one shall come to me, unless the Father draw him" , "Many are called, but few are chosen". Now why would your (supposed) founder waste his time in saying those things, if there was REALLY, in reality, no real distinction to be made there ?
St. Paul said faith was a gift. If everyone has it by default, it's not really a "gift" now is it ?

I liked you in Star Trek by the way, even though you were mean to the Admiral.

You have the attitude that,I don't know the bible.

John 6:44 where Jesus declares that “no one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day.” The Greek word translated “draw” is helkuo, which means “to drag” (literally or figuratively). Clearly, this drawing is a one-sided affair. God does the drawing to salvation; we who are drawn have a passive role in the process. There is no doubt that we respond to His drawing us, but the drawing itself is all on His part.

When Jesus says that no man can come without God’s drawing him, He is making a statement about the total depravity of the sinner and the universality of that condition. So darkened is the unsaved person’s heart that he doesn’t even realize it: “The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?” (Jeremiah 17:9). Therefore, it is only by the merciful and gracious drawing of God that we are saved. In the conversion of the sinner, God enlightens the mind (Ephesians 1:18), inclines the will toward Himself, and influences the soul, without which influence the soul remains darkened and rebellious against God. All of this is involved in the drawing process.

The Bible is not evidence.

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09-10-2015, 04:45 PM
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(09-10-2015 02:14 PM)Fr.Xavier Khan Wrote:  God loves every one of us. I'm sure He longs for everyone to have the gift of faith, but He does not force anyone or impose Himself on anyone.
Wrong. The Great Pumpkin loves me more. When the great Irish saint, Jack O'Lantern and not that Patrick guy, said ask and ye shall have pies, I doubted.

Nay, I say, I did have pumpkin pies. I shall revel in the nutmeg and the cinnamon of life so that I am reminded of the innate spiciness I can attain in life.

And toasted pumpkin seeds to remind me of those who do not heed the words of The Great Pumpkin and will be toasted in the neverlife.

Yea, and I carved a face into the pumpkin so that I am reminded that I can carve out my own fate and make my own happy or scary or sad face.

Verily I say to you, renounce that which is not of The Great Pumpkin. See the error of your ways before The Last Harvest of the World. Do not let yourself deny the truth of the pumpkin. It is there, my friend. Let the punkintude flow into you and cover you like the pumpkin plant.

Behold! The Great Pumpkin is nigh! Get thee to a pumpkin patch now!
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09-10-2015, 05:05 PM
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So, Father Con,

I attended the Basilica of St. Francis Xavier.

Here's what I need to know from you.

Do you pronounce Xavier as Zavier or as Ex A vior?

Beyond that, there's nothing I need to know from you.

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09-10-2015, 05:38 PM
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(09-10-2015 02:14 PM)Fr.Xavier Khan Wrote:  Is Faith a gift? Yes, it is a gift, a sheer gift, bestowed on us out of God’s lavishness, and not out of any implicit contract in the covenant of creation. Faith is a dynamic gift, too, which means that it is both freely given and freely received. It is also a fruitful gift to such an extent that once we have it, we must never look on it as something which is our due, and ours to keep. We must freely give what we have freely received. Whenever we meet a heretic or a pagan, we must remember that our best gift, our Faith, is one which is also intended for him-even providentially so, once he has met us.

God loves every one of us. I'm sure He longs for everyone to have the gift of faith, but He does not force anyone or impose Himself on anyone.

From the Catechism, Section 160:
"Indeed, Christ invited people to faith and conversion, but never coerced them. 'For he bore witness to the truth but refused to use force to impose it on those who spoke against it.'"

Section 162:
"Faith is an entirely free gift that God makes to man. We can lose this priceless gift, as St. Paul indicated to St. Timothy: 'Wage the good warfare, holding faith and a good conscience. By rejecting conscience, certain persons have made shipwreck of their faith.' To live, grow, and perservere in the faith until the end we must nourish it with the word of God; we must beg the Lord to increase our faith; it must be 'working through charity' abounding in hope, and rooted in the faith of the Church."

What is most important, faith or being a good person and doing good deeds?

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09-10-2015, 05:39 PM
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(09-10-2015 05:38 PM)Dom Wrote:  
(09-10-2015 02:14 PM)Fr.Xavier Khan Wrote:  Is Faith a gift? Yes, it is a gift, a sheer gift, bestowed on us out of God’s lavishness, and not out of any implicit contract in the covenant of creation. Faith is a dynamic gift, too, which means that it is both freely given and freely received. It is also a fruitful gift to such an extent that once we have it, we must never look on it as something which is our due, and ours to keep. We must freely give what we have freely received. Whenever we meet a heretic or a pagan, we must remember that our best gift, our Faith, is one which is also intended for him-even providentially so, once he has met us.

God loves every one of us. I'm sure He longs for everyone to have the gift of faith, but He does not force anyone or impose Himself on anyone.

From the Catechism, Section 160:
"Indeed, Christ invited people to faith and conversion, but never coerced them. 'For he bore witness to the truth but refused to use force to impose it on those who spoke against it.'"

Section 162:
"Faith is an entirely free gift that God makes to man. We can lose this priceless gift, as St. Paul indicated to St. Timothy: 'Wage the good warfare, holding faith and a good conscience. By rejecting conscience, certain persons have made shipwreck of their faith.' To live, grow, and perservere in the faith until the end we must nourish it with the word of God; we must beg the Lord to increase our faith; it must be 'working through charity' abounding in hope, and rooted in the faith of the Church."

What is most important, faith or being a good person and doing good deeds?

I think the answer is tithing.

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