Was 9/11 an inside job?
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23-02-2014, 09:08 PM
RE: Was 9/11 an inside job?
BM, did you even bother to look at the many YT videos DEBUNKING the 9/11 conspiracy bullshit?

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24-02-2014, 12:50 AM
RE: Was 9/11 an inside job?
(23-02-2014 09:08 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  BM, did you even bother to look at the many YT videos DEBUNKING the 9/11 conspiracy bullshit?

No, I didn't. Clearly I'm coming from a position of disadvantage having not seen both sides of the argument. But for the sake of completeness I'll at least provide some rebuttal to cjlr's response to me.

My knowledge of conspiracy theories such as the subject of this thread was amassed before I became a sceptic. I didn't think to look at the other side. Conspiracy theories are very seductive to the ill equipped mind as in my case.

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24-02-2014, 01:03 AM
RE: Was 9/11 an inside job?
(23-02-2014 09:08 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  BM, did you even bother to look at the many YT videos DEBUNKING the 9/11 conspiracy bullshit?

The way you talk won't convince anyone. You come off as arrogant and condenscending. It'll just make people believe it more.

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24-02-2014, 01:09 AM
RE: Was 9/11 an inside job?
(24-02-2014 01:03 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(23-02-2014 09:08 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  BM, did you even bother to look at the many YT videos DEBUNKING the 9/11 conspiracy bullshit?

The way you talk won't convince anyone. You come off as arrogant and condenscending. It'll just make people believe it more.

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24-02-2014, 04:13 AM
RE: Was 9/11 an inside job?
(24-02-2014 01:09 AM)donotwant Wrote:  
(24-02-2014 01:03 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  The way you talk won't convince anyone. You come off as arrogant and condenscending. It'll just make people believe it more.

Being nice is not always the most effective approach either Laughat

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24-02-2014, 05:51 AM
RE: Was 9/11 an inside job?
(24-02-2014 12:50 AM)BlackMason Wrote:  
(23-02-2014 09:08 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  BM, did you even bother to look at the many YT videos DEBUNKING the 9/11 conspiracy bullshit?

No, I didn't. Clearly I'm coming from a position of disadvantage having not seen both sides of the argument. But for the sake of completeness I'll at least provide some rebuttal to cjlr's response to me.

My knowledge of conspiracy theories such as the subject of this thread was amassed before I became a sceptic. I didn't think to look at the other side. Conspiracy theories are very seductive to the ill equipped mind as in my case.

The conspiracy community believe that the mainstream "Brainwash" the population (and in some ways they do). However the conspiracy community can also be "brainwashed" with information.

The conspiracy community is its own worst enemy.

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24-02-2014, 06:12 AM
RE: Was 9/11 an inside job?
If you wanted a reason to go to war or to create a common enemy to detract from your political woes, you have two options:

- Conspire to do it yourself and risk having people blow the whistle on you or get caught out by evidence after the event.
- Cut funding or change key services and let your enemies do it for you.

The latter is always a safer, more profitable and better option than the former. You can also always find excuses for the cutting funding. Although this doesn't mean to say that this is what the US government did, just that it is more probable than any conspiracy theory.
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24-02-2014, 06:32 AM
RE: Was 9/11 an inside job?
The time to be nice is over. It was over years ago. Now it's time to go back to the funny conspiracies, like UFO aka aliens among us, crop circles and shit.
The 9/11 theories have been thoroughly debunked, by people with no other interests than the truth. I never cared for the "official version", because debunkers look at the claims made by others, and i't's just a big pile of crap. They call themselves "truthers", yet I've never seen so much deception or ignorance. Nobody should waste more time talking to people "just asking questions". If the reasoning behind the conspiracy is that America is evil... fuck it, no answer will do the trick.

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24-02-2014, 09:17 AM
RE: Was 9/11 an inside job?
(21-02-2014 03:12 PM)undergroundp Wrote:  
(21-02-2014 12:44 PM)Impulse Wrote:  I don't mind admitting when the US really has screwed up and other parts of the world have the right to be angry about it. But, those screw ups aren't the only reason - far from it - why the US isn't liked in many parts of the world. Some other reasons include for example fabrications and misrepresentation of the facts, jealousy, there are always some who hate those with power, and we're not afraid to stand up against countries that would deal out bullshit. Does that make us perfect? No. Does that mean we can't and don't make mistakes? No. But it's fact that we're disliked for much more than we deserve to be disliked for. And how quickly much of the world forgets all the good that we do too.

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Edited to correct the person quoted. My apologies to Alexandro who I incorrectly quoted.

...jealousy?

OK, seriously, we'd all love to live in Manhattan with our iPhones and Starbucks but being jealous of the US? Seriously, you're not as awesome as you'd like to think.

In my language, "American" is a synonym for "stupid" (and no, I'm not proud of it). People here hate Americans for various stereotypical reasons. The same happens with many other countries. Would you say that, for example, we hate the Chinese because we're jealous of them? Dodgy

We're talking about people here, not politicians. Why would the everyday Greek person envy the "power" of the American nation?

I don't hate the US any more than I hate any other country (I actually hate my country more than most countries). I was just commenting on the fact that people around the world do actually hate Americans and they don't need any more reasons to.

About the wars, I'm no historian, but I know the US cannot just stop intervening in every single war they may benefit from.

The mere fact that you think that we should include the Iraq war just "maybe, if you stretch a little" makes me think I shouldn't be bothering with this conversation.

Fine, you aren't jealous and I didn't say you were. I didn't even say anyone should be. But there are those who are and who dislike the US because we have many things they don't - and it's only one reason I listed and I didn't list all the reasons by any stretch anyway. I notice you completely avoided the point.

Intervening in wars is not all the same as starting wars. So I take it you agree with me then?

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24-02-2014, 10:02 AM
RE: Was 9/11 an inside job?
(24-02-2014 12:50 AM)BlackMason Wrote:  No, I didn't. Clearly I'm coming from a position of disadvantage having not seen both sides of the argument. But for the sake of completeness I'll at least provide some rebuttal to cjlr's response to me.

Well, in retrospect I was kinda rude, but it just gets so damn tiring to hear stuff from people (here I mean real conspiracy jockeys, not you, because you're just vaguely alluding to something you saw years ago) who obviously don't know a single thing about science.

The videos Rev linked to are excellent. There are people out there who are so stubbornly clinging to ignorance they'd rather believe in doomsday space lasers than accept that high temperature weakens steel. You hit creationist levels of full retard real fast with that kind of attitude.

(24-02-2014 12:50 AM)BlackMason Wrote:  My knowledge of conspiracy theories such as the subject of this thread was amassed before I became a sceptic. I didn't think to look at the other side. Conspiracy theories are very seductive to the ill equipped mind as in my case.

They're basically 'designed' (not literally, because I don't think it's conscious, but the aggregate result is the same) to be very seductive. Conspiracy theories are mostly about constructing really, really simple narratives to explain big and complicated events. That's always attractive.

Although how much of all the conspiracist nonsense is literally manufactured to sell books and DVDs to schmucks is a pretty open question...

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