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10-08-2014, 07:50 AM
Was Hitler really a Christian
Clearly he wasn't because of Hitler's private writings and conversations. He also murdered many Christians. There were thousands of Protestant and Catholic ministers in concentration camps.

The book Hitler's Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc.first edition, 1953, contains definitive proof of Hitler's real views. The book was published in Britain under the title, _Hitler's Table Talk 1941-1944, which title was used for the Oxford University Press paperback edition in the United States.
All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler:

Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:

National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 6 & 7)

10th October, 1941, midday:

Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)

14th October, 1941, midday:

The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52)

19th October, 1941, night:

The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.

21st October, 1941, midday:

Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer.... The decisive falsification of Jesus' doctrine was the work of St.Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal exploitation.... Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, *****? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St.Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea. (p 63-65)

13th December, 1941, midnight:

Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... .... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease. (p 118 & 119)

14th December, 1941, midday:

Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.... Pure Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics. (p 119 & 120)

9th April, 1942, dinner:

There is something very unhealthy about Christianity (p 339)

27th February, 1942, midday:

It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man who made concessions in this field. I realize that man, in his imperfection, can commit innumerable errors-- but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our epoch Uin the next 200 yearse will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.... My regret will have been that I couldn't... behold ." (p 278)
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10-08-2014, 11:52 AM
RE: Was Hitler really a Christian
Do you always copy/paste and plagiarize shit from random apologist sites? Or do you actually sometimes come up with your own content for discussions? Sweet first post! You're gonna go far.

PS: no one here gives a damn about answers.org

http://www.answers.org/apologetics/Hitquote.html

Now go read Mein Kampf and figure it out for yourself instead of absorbing bullshit for your confirmation bias.

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10-08-2014, 11:56 AM
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Yes Hitler was a Christian, all be it a twisted mix of Catholic and occult, but he most certainly believed that God chose Germans as the master race. But even if one wants to claim he was not, he still used religion to get the masses to follow him, which means there still is no way to take religion out of the issue.

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10-08-2014, 11:59 AM
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But lets say he was not. Hitler's worship of the party was authoritarian, no different than God as a concept itself. God is not a removable leader. You cannot remove him through election from his position. He also does not need human's permission or consent for him to rule. God will be kind to loyalists, but isn't so kind to dissent.

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10-08-2014, 12:01 PM
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Regardless of Hitler's beliefs, many of the high ranking Nazis were believers in one kind of bullshit or another.

All of the famous names... Hitler, Goerring, Hess, Himmler etc were raised as Roman Catholics... As far as I'm aware, only Goebels has been excommunicated by the Vatican, not for any crimes against humanity, or being a member of one of the most evil regimes in history... But because he married a Protestant.

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10-08-2014, 12:06 PM
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(10-08-2014 11:59 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  But lets say he was not. Hitler's worship of the party was authoritarian, no different than God as a concept itself. God is not a removable leader. You cannot remove him through election from his position. He also does not need human's permission or consent for him to rule. God will be kind to loyalists, but isn't so kind to dissent.

It's really a moot point anyway. Doesn't matter if he was a Christian, Catholic or Atheist. He was a deluded asshole. People just want a figure of authority to try and drag a specific name into the mud. If he's a Christian people think maybe it'll make Christians look bad. If he's an Atheist, people think maybe it'll make atheists look bad. Etc etc. Someone just wants to jerk themselves off and go, "MAH MORALITY BE BETTAH THAN YO MORALITY!" and beat an old dead horse.

Highly unlikely that anyone who is attempting to bring up the ancient beat to death horse of Adolf Hitler vs Christians or Atheism is interested in any kind of intellectual conversation. Especially those that simply copy and paste shit off of an apologist site that is almost as old as hampster dance, the dusty dried out vagina of the internet.

That EXACT url has been around since 1999. https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www...quote.html it is literally older than shit.

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10-08-2014, 12:07 PM
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Quote:"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (


Hitler was not only a xtian, he was a fine example of the European tradition of jew-hating xtians which went right back to the beginning of their blood-soaked religion.

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10-08-2014, 12:21 PM
RE: Was Hitler really a Christian
(10-08-2014 07:50 AM)TomLL Wrote:  Clearly he wasn't because of Hitler's private writings and conversations.
Yeah, Hitler had such high moral standards, we should believe everything he said. Dodgy

(10-08-2014 07:50 AM)TomLL Wrote:  He also murdered many Christians. There were thousands of Protestant and Catholic ministers in concentration camps.
Yeah, no one murders their own. Rolleyes

And what difference does it make if he wasn't a Christian? Do you have a point to make? Consider

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10-08-2014, 12:46 PM
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(10-08-2014 12:06 PM)Logisch Wrote:  
(10-08-2014 11:59 AM)Brian37 Wrote:  But lets say he was not. Hitler's worship of the party was authoritarian, no different than God as a concept itself. God is not a removable leader. You cannot remove him through election from his position. He also does not need human's permission or consent for him to rule. God will be kind to loyalists, but isn't so kind to dissent.

It's really a moot point anyway. Doesn't matter if he was a Christian, Catholic or Atheist. He was a deluded asshole. People just want a figure of authority to try and drag a specific name into the mud. If he's a Christian people think maybe it'll make Christians look bad. If he's an Atheist, people think maybe it'll make atheists look bad. Etc etc. Someone just wants to jerk themselves off and go, "MAH MORALITY BE BETTAH THAN YO MORALITY!" and beat an old dead horse.

Highly unlikely that anyone who is attempting to bring up the ancient beat to death horse of Adolf Hitler vs Christians or Atheism is interested in any kind of intellectual conversation. Especially those that simply copy and paste shit off of an apologist site that is almost as old as hampster dance, the dusty dried out vagina of the internet.

That EXACT url has been around since 1999. https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www...quote.html it is literally older than shit.

I totally agree. Hitler was a leading member of the Insane Party and belonged to the Church of Crazy. He was his own special Variety of Nuts.

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10-08-2014, 12:48 PM (This post was last modified: 10-08-2014 12:53 PM by Hobbitgirl.)
RE: Was Hitler really a Christian
This is one of those arguments that doesnt do -anything- to prove a point. Its just mud slinging to try to upset the other side.
It does not MATTER if he was religious or not. There are bad people everywhere. He was clearly a horrible person. Period. It has nothing to do with whether god/s/ are real or not.
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