Was the Holocaust... a lie?
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26-05-2012, 09:32 PM
RE: Was the Holocaust... a lie?
(26-05-2012 09:26 PM)DeepThought Wrote:  Goddamn.. The stupid... it burns!

It's right there in black and white. The way civilians use and operate crematoriums doesn't apply to the way the military would do it.
Right but no one will try and test the ovens in order to end the controversy once and for all?
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26-05-2012, 09:38 PM
RE: Was the Holocaust... a lie?
(26-05-2012 09:32 PM)TheArcticSage Wrote:  Right but no one will try and test the ovens in order to end the controversy once and for all?
What controversy? Every reasonable person who has done an in-depth research will come to the conclusion that the Holocaust did happen. It surprises me that you are still ignoring all the evidence being presented to you. According to your logic, we would also have to test the gas chambers for their functionality to kill humans. Since you claim that they cannot be used for such a purpose, why don't you offer yourself as a test subject?

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26-05-2012, 09:49 PM
RE: Was the Holocaust... a lie?
(26-05-2012 09:38 PM)Vosur Wrote:  
(26-05-2012 09:32 PM)TheArcticSage Wrote:  Right but no one will try and test the ovens in order to end the controversy once and for all?
What controversy? Every reasonable person who has done an in-depth research will come to the conclusion that the Holocaust did happen. It surprises me that you are still ignoring all the evidence being presented to you. According to your logic, we would also have to test the gas chambers for their functionality to kill humans. Since you claim that they cannot be used for such a purpose, why don't you offer yourself as a test subject?
Sure I'd gladly offer my dead body as a test subject for the crematoriums upon my expiration. However, that gas chamber I'm going to have ask for a gas mask on that one, and everyone who would be testing with me. Only an idiot would be working around gas and not be wearing a gas mask.
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26-05-2012, 09:59 PM
RE: Was the Holocaust... a lie?
(26-05-2012 09:49 PM)TheArcticSage Wrote:  Sure I'd gladly offer my dead body as a test subject for the crematoriums upon my expiration. However, that gas chamber I'm going to have ask for a gas mask on that one, and everyone who would be testing with me. Only an idiot would be working around gas and not be wearing a gas mask.
We would be able to kill two birds with one stone by performing the gas chamber experiment without you using a gas mask. In the unfortunate event that you happen to die in the course of the experiment, we would have confirmed that the gas chambers can be used to kill humans. We could then proceed by using your corpse to test the crematoriums to see if they function as described previously. Doesn't that sound great? We could prove the functionality of both facilities with just one test subject!

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26-05-2012, 10:24 PM
RE: Was the Holocaust... a lie?
(26-05-2012 09:59 PM)Vosur Wrote:  
(26-05-2012 09:49 PM)TheArcticSage Wrote:  Sure I'd gladly offer my dead body as a test subject for the crematoriums upon my expiration. However, that gas chamber I'm going to have ask for a gas mask on that one, and everyone who would be testing with me. Only an idiot would be working around gas and not be wearing a gas mask.
We would be able to kill two birds with one stone by performing the gas chamber experiment without you using a gas mask. In the unfortunate event that you happen to die in the course of the experiment, we would have confirmed that the gas chambers can be used to kill humans. We could then proceed by using your corpse to test the crematoriums to see if they function as described previously. Doesn't that sound great? We could prove the functionality of both facilities with just one test subject!
Somehow I doubt that one person would generate enough body heat to turn the pellets into gas, remember that's how they would do it.
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27-05-2012, 06:14 AM
RE: Was the Holocaust... a lie?
And yet the only places that claim that the gas chambers were never used are from your nazi fanboys. Funny how every other researcher ignores a fundamental fact such as the gas chambers never being used. Despite the fact that zyklon b has been found there including in the crematoriams.

I think deep down you are a bit of a nazi fanboy yourself. Which is why you cling to shoddy evidence and write off the counter evidence as lies. Without doing any research into the subject atall. Because no rational person would come to the conclusion that is a lie if they had examined all of the evidence. Because the evidence for it happening completely destroys the 'evidence' under its sheer weight.

Seriously though. Why are you an atheist and not a young earther or a flat earther? Since you take biased, fails to stand up to all criticism and counter evidence as fact without looking at the evidence from the other side.

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27-05-2012, 06:27 AM
RE: Was the Holocaust... a lie?
(27-05-2012 06:14 AM)FSM_scot Wrote:  And yet the only places that claim that the gas chambers were never used are from your nazi fanboys. Funny how every other researcher ignores a fundamental fact such as the gas chambers never being used. Despite the fact that zyklon b has been found there including in the crematoriams.

I think deep down you are a bit of a nazi fanboy yourself. Which is why you cling to shoddy evidence and write off the counter evidence as lies. Without doing any research into the subject atall. Because no rational person would come to the conclusion that is a lie if they had examined all of the evidence. Because the evidence for it happening completely destroys the 'evidence' under its sheer weight.

Seriously though. Why are you an atheist and not a young earther or a flat earther? Since you take biased, fails to stand up to all criticism and counter evidence as fact without looking at the evidence from the other side.
No. FSM Scot, I don't think you understand. This one fact is agreed upon by both sides now days, and that is that the gas chamber at dachau was never used. And now even Majdanek went from 1.5 mil down to 79,000 by your side. The side that supports the holocaust. and Auschwitz went from 4 mil to 1.1 mil (gotta have a mil though for auschwitz) again by your side. The human lampshades, the soap made from jew fat, most of that stuff has now been discounted by YOUR side. The side that supports the holocaust. But we forget one very important thing here, and that is, all these things were submitted at proof at the nuremberg trials... now at the risk of sounding like many people here. Don't you have any sources that aren't unbiased and aren't well known for lying to meet their own agenda?

Remember, this is 'revised' history because the science was pointing towards bullshit so they had to make up more bullshit to cover up their bullshit but when you do that it becomes pretty clear by the smell that it's all bullshit.
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27-05-2012, 07:49 AM
RE: Was the Holocaust... a lie?
(27-05-2012 06:14 AM)FSM_scot Wrote:  I think deep down you are a bit of a nazi fanboy yourself. Which is why you cling to shoddy evidence and write off the counter evidence as lies. Without doing any research into the subject atall. Because no rational person would come to the conclusion that is a lie if they had examined all of the evidence. Because the evidence for it happening completely destroys the 'evidence' under its sheer weight.
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27-05-2012, 07:53 AM (This post was last modified: 27-05-2012 07:58 AM by TheArcticSage.)
RE: Was the Holocaust... a lie?
(27-05-2012 07:49 AM)Vosur Wrote:  "There's almost a certain charm to Hitler, I always found myself reluctant to hate him." TAS
I'd be lying if I said I didn't admire great military leaders throughout history. Alexander, Julius Ceasar, Constantine, Charlemagne, and even Napoleon. Why should Hitler be any different?

Oh and lets not forget about the generals involved in WWII! There was Patton, Rommel. some guy... I think his name was EiffelTower... ended up becoming president... silly really, a place in paris becoming president of the united states. Fucking hate eisenhower.
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27-05-2012, 06:03 PM
RE: Was the Holocaust... a lie?
(26-05-2012 05:28 AM)TheArcticSage Wrote:  
(26-05-2012 04:32 AM)Carlo_The_Bugsmasher_Driver Wrote:  Did you ever consider the reasons have to do with maintenance on the facilities themselves? If the site were abandoned, say by fleeing SS from the Soviet onslaught, as opposed to being thoroughly cleaned after use, Prussic acid would still be left on the walls. Also, had you done further research on the site you cherry picked a quote from, not to mention research on cyanide poisoning, you would have known that it takes a great deal more HCN, and for longer periods, to kill lice than humans. This is why the delousing facilities at the camps are stained much more heavily than the homicidal gas chambers were. But Prussic acid staining does appear on the homicidal facilities, both at Majdanek as well as at the Zyklon-B gas chamber at Stutthoff concentration camp as evidenced in the photo below.

At Stutthoff, you can see smaller quantities of Prussic acid staining, but it appears nonetheless.

In regards to lack of Prussic acid residue in the San Quentin facility as well as Auschwitz I, this is due to cleaning and maintenance. At SQ, the chamber was thoroughly scrubbed down with ammonia after use to neutralize the gas. At Auschwitz, the experimental gas chamber was converted to an air raid shelter later on in the war. I'm quite certain that the Nazis cleaned it out thoroughly to prevent poisoning SS personnel who used it.


What a crock of shit. At Auschwitz alone, historians document that 1.1 million people died there. Only about 70,000 people total died in the camps from Typhus. That leave over 1,000,000 dead people unaccounted for. Let's stop that bullshit right now.


False. The Nazis were afforded a defense, same as in any military court of law, which failed to refute the overwhelming evidence of their guilt. They were innocent up until the verdicts were read. If they are guilty, they were proven so. The burden of proof now lies with you to exonerate them and I must say, the way you're going their date with the gallows is assured.

And I can find a handful of people, and the deluded fools like you who follow them, who believe the holocaust was faked to smear the Nazis, despite a mountain of historical, legal, and eyewitness testimonies. Propaganda, indeed.


again, see answers above.
And it looks to me as though the 'homicidal' gas chambers and 'delousing' chambers that are stained with prussian blue seemed to be stained in relatively the same amount

And another thing why I don't buy into the whole 'exposure' to the elements is this.

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It's the auschwitz delousing chamber, with clear prussian blue on the outside, exposed to the elements for just as long as the destroyed krema's have been.

To which you still have not answered my question, in which why if it takes many hours for prussian blue chemicals to be able to set it. Why then is it at majdanek and not dachau.

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It appears Majdanek is no longer considered a death camp, but has now been classified as a concentration camp. with the lowest rating it's ever received of 79,000 dead instead of the original 1.5 million which the soviets 'over-estimated' that leaves us with 5 other death camps, 4 of which the only things left would be their foundations. The only one still standing would be Auschwitz. It should also be noted that most acclaimed death camps were on the soviet side. With the exemption of Dachau.

If you wish to debate number that you'll have to take it up with the head of the science department at Majdanek. Dachau was once considered a death camp as well but logic soon refuted that one. I've known this but you might be one of the ones still saying it was used as a death camp. Even though many respectable historians agree that. The gas chambers were never used at Dachau. Which would obviously explain why there is no prussian blue on them.

BUT

The logic still stands, prussian blue chemicals takes 'many hours' to set in. And yet there they are at the ever reducing Majdanek concentrations camps delousing chambers that some would stupidly confuse with a homicidal gas chamber. Remember they said it wasn't good enough to set in at the other camps Wink
The facility at Dachau does not contain Prussic acid staining for 1 of 2 reasons. Either the facility was used on a limited basis, then thoroughly cleaned, or it is possible that, as I indicated in post #366, the Dachau gas chamber was built with the intent of being used but never was.

In re Majdanek, you only partly right, cowboy. The soviets overestimated the death figures, but the camp was used for extermination, with over 78,000 Jews and some 20,000 mentally retarded people being either gassed or shot there.

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