Was the Roman empire truly civilised? Or was it barbaric itself and merely arrogant?
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08-12-2014, 12:39 PM (This post was last modified: 08-12-2014 01:08 PM by tear151.)
Was the Roman empire truly civilised? Or was it barbaric itself and merely arrogant?
I have no view on the topic, but I think it's interesting so if you're interested leave a post and I'd love to read it. I'm not saying these are mutually exclusive by any means, it's more the character limit of the title.

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08-12-2014, 12:48 PM
RE: Was the Roman empire truly civilised? Or was it barbaric itself and merely arrogant?
I'm not sure those are mutually exclusive options or that they are simple yes/no propositions. Are you comparing it to earlier, contemporary, or later societies? Could it not be barbaric in some respects, civilized in others, and also arrogant in some ways?

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08-12-2014, 01:08 PM
RE: Was the Roman empire truly civilised? Or was it barbaric itself and merely arrogant?
I edited the op to reflect that, obviously it's not mutually exclusive. Is it possible for mods to change the title to simply "Was the Roman Empire truly civilised? Discuss" or something, I can't seem to edit it...

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08-12-2014, 01:32 PM
RE: Was the Roman empire truly civilised? Or was it barbaric itself and merely arrogant?
Define "civilized".

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08-12-2014, 01:56 PM
RE: Was the Roman empire truly civilised? Or was it barbaric itself and merely arrogant?
The definition of civilised is entirely up to the people who want to post their ideas, I'm here to spectate.

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08-12-2014, 02:36 PM
RE: Was the Roman empire truly civilised? Or was it barbaric itself and merely arrogant?
If we understand civilization as:

(Merriam-Webster)
- a relatively high level of cultural and technological development; specifically : the stage of cultural development at which writing and the keeping of written records is attained

- refinement of thought, manners, or taste

- a situation of urban comfort

Yes, it was.

It actually depends on what you want to compare it to.

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08-12-2014, 03:21 PM
RE: Was the Roman empire truly civilised? Or was it barbaric itself and merely arrogant?
(08-12-2014 02:36 PM)undergroundp Wrote:  If we understand civilization as:

(Merriam-Webster)
- a relatively high level of cultural and technological development; specifically : the stage of cultural development at which writing and the keeping of written records is attained

- refinement of thought, manners, or taste

- a situation of urban comfort

Yes, it was.

It actually depends on what you want to compare it to.

Consider When I ask my friends studying history normally they'd spurt out at me a definite yes to this or a definite no, that they were brutal and genocidal.

Laugh out load I'm rather glad this forum is of a high enough caliber to question that, I'm literally just probing peoples opinions on the matter, not even justified, just what people think, there's no trap here.

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08-12-2014, 03:25 PM
RE: Was the Roman empire truly civilised? Or was it barbaric itself and merely arrogant?
(08-12-2014 03:21 PM)tear151 Wrote:  
(08-12-2014 02:36 PM)undergroundp Wrote:  If we understand civilization as:

(Merriam-Webster)
- a relatively high level of cultural and technological development; specifically : the stage of cultural development at which writing and the keeping of written records is attained

- refinement of thought, manners, or taste

- a situation of urban comfort

Yes, it was.

It actually depends on what you want to compare it to.

Consider When I ask my friends studying history normally they'd spurt out at me a definite yes to this or a definite no, that they were brutal and genocidal.

Laugh out load I'm rather glad this forum is of a high enough caliber to question that, I'm literally just probing peoples opinions on the matter, not even justified, just what people think, there's no trap here.

Compared to, say, their contemporary peoples of Northern Europe, they were quite civilized. Compared to today's civilized societies, they weren't.

Civilization is a term that must always take into account the time and the place.

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08-12-2014, 03:34 PM
RE: Was the Roman empire truly civilised? Or was it barbaric itself and merely arrogant?
They were brutal and genocidal. But they also had a high level of culture due to being able to share and trade ideas throughout their empire. Rome was the focal point and so Rome was able to flourish as a result.
They recorded their life and such. They were able to build roads, bathhouses, sewer systems, aqueducts etc...

Compared to the 'barbarians' around them they were civilized.

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08-12-2014, 04:25 PM
RE: Was the Roman empire truly civilised? Or was it barbaric itself and merely arrogant?
Reminds me of an old joke.
Kid at the killing games starts crying...
...'Don't cry dear' says his Mum,' they'e only christians'
'it's not that he wails' 'one lion hasn't got a Christian' .

I really see gross evil and civilization as mutually exclusive.
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