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07-09-2013, 11:46 AM
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(07-09-2013 11:31 AM)cheapthrillseaker Wrote:  Prove it.









That is easily proven, actually.

You just look at the "Tisha B'Av curse", on Judaism.

Are you aware that both original Holy Temples were destroyed on the same day of the year?

The 9th of Av, in the Jewish calendar.

And not only that, every major Jewish tragedy has also occurred on that day?

Even in modern times?

All 12 major tragedies that the Jews have ever experienced, have occurred on the 9th of Av.

Why did God pick the obscure day, the 9th of Av?

Well that was the day that the Jews balked, the day when Moses said "We are here, now we take the promised land".

And they said "no".

We don't want it.

Then God became enraged, and changed his mind, about the Jews, on that day, the 9th of Av.

You could easily say that God's relationship with the Jews ended on that day.

After that, all the myriad of horror and tragedy that God continually has sent to the Jews, for some 3,300 years now, has also started on that day, the 9th of Av. (about August 11th, it varies each year):


1. The Jews balk, and reject the promised land. 9th of Av, 1313 BC (now commemorated by the Jewish holiday and day of mourning called "Tisha B'Av"). This is the incident that started God's 3,300 year old "9th of Av" curse.

2. The first Holy Temple destroyed. 9th of Av, 586BC.

3. The second Holy Temple destroyed. 9th of Av, 70AD

4. The Romans crushed Bar Kokhba's revolt and destroyed the city of Betar, killing over 100,000 Jews, on July 8, 132 AD (Av 9, 3892 AM). Following the Roman siege of Jerusalem, Roman commander Turnus Rufus plowed the site of the Temple and the surrounding area, in 133 AD.

5. The First Crusade was declared by Pope Urban II on July 20, 1095 (Av 9, 4855 AM), killing 10,000 Jews in its first month and destroying Jewish communities in France and the Rhineland. A grand total of 1.2 million Jews were killed by this crusade that started on the 9th of Av, this crusade killed each and every Jew that they could get ahold of on the way to and back from the promised land.

6. The Jews were expelled from England on July 25, 1290 (Av 9, 5050 AM).

7. The Jews were expelled from France on July 21, 1306 (Av 9, 5066 AM).

8. The Jews were expelled from Spain on August 11, 1492 (Av 9, 5252 AM).

9. On August 1, 1914 (Av 9, 5674 AM), World War I broke out, causing unprecedented devastation across Europe and set the stage for World War II and the Holocaust.

10. On August 2nd, 1941, (Av 9, 5701 AM), SS commander Heinrich Himmler received approval from the Nazi party for "The Final Solution". One year later, to the day, the plan was formally implemented. The final solution was the almost completely successful plan to murder all the Jews in Europe. Almost 50% of the Jews on the face of the earth were captured and killed at that time.

11. On the 9th of Av 5702 (July 23, 1942), the mass deportation began of Jews from the Warsaw Ghetto, en route to Treblinka (death camp).

12. The Jewish community center in Buenos Aires was bombed, killing 86 and wounding 300 others, on Monday July 18, 1994, in the Jewish calendar, the 9th of Av, 5754.



To the Jews, this date is very very significant. And they treat it as such. All the horror and tragedy that God has sent to them on just this date has caused them to make it a Jewish holiday and day of mourning called, "Tisha B'Av".


The saddest day of the year.



(Note - All these statistics came from Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tisha_B'Av, and here is an article from impeccably credentialed and highly recognized Jewish organization "Chabad.org" which also explores this "the Jews seem to be under God's curse" phenomenon: http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cd...of-Av.htm)




Each and every bad thing that has ever happened to the Jews has started on the 9th of Av.

And that is a fact.

Are you so sure that God is not real?





This article should tell you two things:

1. That God is real. As only God could do that.

And

2. That Judaism is not the place to be. As it surely seems to be cursed by God. (and that is not even counting the Holocaust, etc..)




God has put a curse on the whole thing, Judaism. I would be very very fearful of dying still enslaved to it. Time to stop sugar coating reality. The historical evidence says that God is really just waiting to wrap his hands around your neck. And that is putting it mildly. If you become a Christian, you will avoid that fate.



A savior would tell you that.
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07-09-2013, 11:52 AM
RE: Welcome Mark Dreher
(07-09-2013 11:46 AM)Mark Dreher Wrote:  
(07-09-2013 11:31 AM)cheapthrillseaker Wrote:  Prove it.









That is easily proven, actually.

You just look at the "Tisha B'Av curse", on Judaism.

Are you aware that both original Holy Temples were destroyed on the same day of the year?

The 9th of Av, in the Jewish calendar.

And not only that, every major Jewish tragedy has also occurred on that day?

Even in modern times?

All 12 major tragedies that the Jews have ever experienced, have occurred on the 9th of Av.

Why did God pick the obscure day, the 9th of Av?

Well that was the day that the Jews balked, the day when Moses said "We are here, now we take the promised land".

And they said "no".

We don't want it.

Then God became enraged, and changed his mind, about the Jews, on that day, the 9th of Av.

You could easily say that God's relationship with the Jews ended on that day.

After that, all the myriad of horror and tragedy that God continually has sent to the Jews, for some 3,300 years now, has also started on that day, the 9th of Av. (about August 11th, it varies each year):


1. The Jews balk, and reject the promised land. 9th of Av, 1313 BC (now commemorated by the Jewish holiday and day of mourning called "Tisha B'Av"). This is the incident that started God's 3,300 year old "9th of Av" curse.

2. The first Holy Temple destroyed. 9th of Av, 586BC.

3. The second Holy Temple destroyed. 9th of Av, 70AD

4. The Romans crushed Bar Kokhba's revolt and destroyed the city of Betar, killing over 100,000 Jews, on July 8, 132 AD (Av 9, 3892 AM). Following the Roman siege of Jerusalem, Roman commander Turnus Rufus plowed the site of the Temple and the surrounding area, in 133 AD.

5. The First Crusade was declared by Pope Urban II on July 20, 1095 (Av 9, 4855 AM), killing 10,000 Jews in its first month and destroying Jewish communities in France and the Rhineland. A grand total of 1.2 million Jews were killed by this crusade that started on the 9th of Av, this crusade killed each and every Jew that they could get ahold of on the way to and back from the promised land.

6. The Jews were expelled from England on July 25, 1290 (Av 9, 5050 AM).

7. The Jews were expelled from France on July 21, 1306 (Av 9, 5066 AM).

8. The Jews were expelled from Spain on August 11, 1492 (Av 9, 5252 AM).

9. On August 1, 1914 (Av 9, 5674 AM), World War I broke out, causing unprecedented devastation across Europe and set the stage for World War II and the Holocaust.

10. On August 2nd, 1941, (Av 9, 5701 AM), SS commander Heinrich Himmler received approval from the Nazi party for "The Final Solution". One year later, to the day, the plan was formally implemented. The final solution was the almost completely successful plan to murder all the Jews in Europe. Almost 50% of the Jews on the face of the earth were captured and killed at that time.

11. On the 9th of Av 5702 (July 23, 1942), the mass deportation began of Jews from the Warsaw Ghetto, en route to Treblinka (death camp).

12. The Jewish community center in Buenos Aires was bombed, killing 86 and wounding 300 others, on Monday July 18, 1994, in the Jewish calendar, the 9th of Av, 5754.



To the Jews, this date is very very significant. And they treat it as such. All the horror and tragedy that God has sent to them on just this date has caused them to make it a Jewish holiday and day of mourning called, "Tisha B'Av".


The saddest day of the year.



(Note - All these statistics came from Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tisha_B'Av, and here is an article from impeccably credentialed and highly recognized Jewish organization "Chabad.org" which also explores this "the Jews seem to be under God's curse" phenomenon: http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cd...of-Av.htm)




Each and every bad thing that has ever happened to the Jews has started on the 9th of Av.

And that is a fact.

Are you so sure that God is not real?





This article should tell you two things:

1. That God is real. As only God could do that.

And

2. That Judaism is not the place to be. As it surely seems to be cursed by God. (and that is not even counting the Holocaust, etc..)




God has put a curse on the whole thing, Judaism. I would be very very fearful of dying still enslaved to it. Time to stop sugar coating reality. The historical evidence says that God is really just waiting to wrap his hands around your neck. And that is putting it mildly. If you become a Christian, you will avoid that fate.



A savior would tell you that.

the answer, is life

my dear.

when same will face another same will,

it is not reality since just some wills,

but the will is living so kind of smthg of is freely existing
that is how fake spiritual life exist

too that consciously a lot of people

join to benefit from as a base of daily life

true existence isolate each freedom

not bc of this of course, but it says

how what is true cant b messed with

the same freedom is always individually

constant and really never change

but life is the evil way, bc it is not

reality so against truth while freedom

affected by the other presence too

most of people choose life bc, it is

easy to b then and limit then everything

to positive constant sense they can get

this what shows how life is wrong also evil

as opposed to true existence facts, but

logically truth will win at the end, as being

the only existence fact from its real

and right presence

all those inventions of positive free

wills shares did became satanic as

they couldnt stay constant

only what is true stay as it is in

positive truth which is always same more

existence is to truth bc to stay

constant is impossible

if not really self positive resource

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07-09-2013, 11:52 AM
RE: Welcome Mark Dreher
(07-09-2013 11:46 AM)Mark Dreher Wrote:  ...

9th of Av.

...

Wadya know? That's my birthday!

It's a sign.

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07-09-2013, 12:35 PM
RE: Welcome Mark Dreher
(07-09-2013 11:52 AM)Chas Wrote:  the answer, is life










Answer to what?

All we're trying to do, is "keep you out of Hell".

That's all, period.

If you want to go to Heaven, you can go, EVEN homosexuals.

What are the requirements in order to go to Heaven?

There are only two.

!. Routinely say grace, every meal.

And 2. Attend church, once a week.

(I did not say temple.)

And that's it.

You're going to Heaven.

A simple matter.

It's best not to "think about it", too much.

Since

It is such a simple matter.
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07-09-2013, 12:38 PM
RE: Welcome Mark Dreher
(07-09-2013 11:52 AM)DLJ Wrote:  Wadya know? That's my birthday!

It's a sign.









Well, you are a pesky Jew.

So that could explain a lot.

Actually.
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07-09-2013, 12:46 PM
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Yabut, does P=NP?

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07-09-2013, 01:18 PM
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(07-09-2013 12:46 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Yabut, does P=NP?








I'm not good at math.

Almost failed calculus.

Never go to math class high.

Hemp, and numbers, do not mix.

A word to the wise.
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07-09-2013, 01:22 PM
RE: Welcome Mark Dreher
(07-09-2013 01:18 PM)Mark Dreher Wrote:  
(07-09-2013 12:46 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Yabut, does P=NP?








I'm not good at math.

Almost failed calculus.

Never go to math class high.

Hemp, and numbers, do not mix.

A word to the wise.

How can you be the perfect human being if you suck at math? How can you be superior to "jews" if suck at math? Looks like you suck on more than just rubber dicks then.

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RE: Welcome Mark Dreher
(07-09-2013 01:18 PM)Mark Dreher Wrote:  
(07-09-2013 12:46 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Yabut, does P=NP?
I'm not good at math.

Almost failed calculus.

Never go to math class high.

Hemp, and numbers, do not mix.

A word to the wise.

God hates math

even more

than Jews.

fixt.

And Girly couldn't've ever comprehended Mathematical Logic and The Calculus without some supplemental help from hemp. Math ain't about numbers, that's just simple arithmetic. Just another example you is a false prophet promoting a false god. Tongue

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07-09-2013, 01:27 PM
RE: Welcome Mark Dreher
Yabut that doesn't prove that I read it. Tongue

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