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23-08-2013, 11:17 AM
RE: Welcome Mark Dreher
(23-08-2013 11:02 AM)Mark Dreher Wrote:  
(23-08-2013 10:49 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  All right Mark, serious question:

So, in short - now correct me if I'm wrong - but you are pretty much lambasting and trying to erase traditional Christianity? You think/know that you are God the Father and you're married to God the Mother (which is higher). And, you wrote your own bible, correct?

Am I right on this?

Okay, if all of this is correct, and forgive me if this has been asked... who was Jesus, then?

Since Jesus lived before you, He couldn't be your son, right?

Which means one of these things:

1) You're not God.
2) Jesus wasn't the Son of God.
3) Mother God cheated on you.
4) There is more than one Father God.

Please explain.





I am trying "to get you into a relationship, with the Holy Spirit".

A personal relationship, with God.

I want you to know God, like the back of your hand.

I want you all, to get along.

Or as least not to bug each other, too badly.

Get you to shut up.

With this lefty

Crapola.

Since God

Is quite

To the right.

And lefty crapola

Should, just be the name of a breakfast cereal.

That nobody eats.

You answered -11% of my question.

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23-08-2013, 11:18 AM
RE: Welcome Mark Dreher
(23-08-2013 11:07 AM)evenheathen Wrote:  Well that's a little bit clever at least. There's hope for you yet, god!






"Son of God".

Lest we forget.

I am not God.

Technically.
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23-08-2013, 11:21 AM
RE: Welcome Mark Dreher
(23-08-2013 11:07 AM)Mark Dreher Wrote:  
(23-08-2013 10:51 AM)DLJ Wrote:  I wouldn't mind a bit of a sales-pitch.

Why is going to heaven desirable?

It sounds like it's full of people I would want to avoid.

It sounds like a better deal to be a Jewish homosexual.

Unsure





Heaven, is just like the earth.

Now Hell, on the other hard, is the "second destination".

Why is Heaven sooo good?

Because it is not Hell.

Is the easy answer.

Everything, after that, is gravy.

All good.

All good.

Please could you describe your hell, I'm not familiar with it.

Why is it an undesirable destination?

Cheers

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23-08-2013, 11:32 AM
RE: Welcome Mark Dreher
(23-08-2013 11:17 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  You answered -11% of my question.




God wrote the bible.

I am more of a secretary, in that type of deal.

I am not that clever.


I am referred to as "The Father".

But not "God, the Father".

Not by anyone who knows.

I am "the Father", by marriage.

It is an honor, and a honorary, position.

You, were created, by the Shekinah.

All, by herself.

She is your Mother.

Your, Creator.

The Creator, and the Master.

Of all of the Heavens.

And of all the earth.

She, is God.

And, I am married

To her.

I fight for her.

Like a man

Fights for his wife.

A guy

Who would go down swinging.
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23-08-2013, 11:36 AM
RE: Welcome Mark Dreher
(23-08-2013 11:21 AM)DLJ Wrote:  Please could you describe your hell, I'm not familiar with it.

Why is it an undesirable destination?

Cheers





I would rather not.

Actually.

It is rather gruesome.

And sadistic.

To tell you about it.

It is, the worst that you can imagine.

And then some.
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23-08-2013, 12:07 PM
RE: Welcome Mark Dreher
(23-08-2013 11:36 AM)Mark Dreher Wrote:  
(23-08-2013 11:21 AM)DLJ Wrote:  Please could you describe your hell, I'm not familiar with it.

Why is it an undesirable destination?

Cheers





I would rather not.

Actually.

It is rather gruesome.

And sadistic.

To tell you about it.

It is, the worst that you can imagine.

And then some.

Come on. I'm rather piqued now. Isn't the best way to gather a flock through fear?

Do tell, please.

But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.

~ Umberto Eco
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23-08-2013, 12:35 PM
RE: Welcome Mark Dreher
(23-08-2013 12:07 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  
(23-08-2013 11:36 AM)Mark Dreher Wrote:  I would rather not.

Actually.

It is rather gruesome.

And sadistic.

To tell you about it.

It is, the worst that you can imagine.

And then some.

Come on. I'm rather piqued now. Isn't the best way to gather a flock through fear?

Do tell, please.




Hell, is described, most accurately, in the third letter of the Apostle Peter, "The Apocalypse of Peter".

Verses 21 through 34.

http://thenewholybible.org/the_apocalypse_of_peter.htm

I told you.

You didn't want to go there.
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23-08-2013, 12:44 PM
RE: Welcome Mark Dreher
(23-08-2013 12:35 PM)Mark Dreher Wrote:  
(23-08-2013 12:07 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  Come on. I'm rather piqued now. Isn't the best way to gather a flock through fear?

Do tell, please.




Hell, is described, most accurately, in the third letter of the Apostle Peter, "The Apocalypse of Peter".

Verses 21 through 34.

http://thenewholybible.org/the_apocalypse_of_peter.htm

I told you.

You didn't want to go there.

Ah, yeah. I've read that before. Good times.

But why should I believe this crap is true again?

I mean, really. God is one kinky bitch to have come up with all of that and then actually creating it and putting her beloved creations in it without proper notification.

But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.

~ Umberto Eco
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23-08-2013, 01:10 PM
RE: Welcome Mark Dreher
Mark, why torture the supposed wicked? To what end? What's the point? Wouldn't it be preferable for them to stop existing? Why add suffering to Creation, when you... she... could unmake the condemned instead?

And about that passage you linked... why do the spirits of those murdered have to spend time in Hell, also?
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23-08-2013, 01:18 PM
RE: Welcome Mark Dreher
(23-08-2013 01:10 PM)I Am Wrote:  Mark, why torture the supposed wicked? To what end? What's the point? Wouldn't it be preferable for them to stop existing? Why add suffering to Creation, when you... she... could unmake the condemned instead?

And about that passage you linked... why do the spirits of those murdered have to spend time in Hell, also?





The spirit of those murdered "gets to see justice done".

To the one who killed him.

He does not constantly, remain in Hell.

God tortures people in Hell, for what reason?

To help you to not go there.

The greater the penalty, the less people want to get it.

So, he turns up the heat, and many are saved.

Just because of the stigma, of "avoiding Hell".

And why should it be avoided?

Many reasons.

Hurts.

Is probably

A big one.
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