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Welp... gonna have Cavemen again...
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22-01-2013, 09:34 AM
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RE: Welp... gonna have Cavemen again...
.... What's the "ethical" issue.. It's just a pseudo pre-human.
"Nobody can tell what is right and what is wrong; what is righteous and what is evil. Even if there is a god and I had his teachings right before me, I would think it through and decide if that was right or wrong myself." - Near, Death Note |
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22-01-2013, 09:34 AM
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RE: Welp... gonna have Cavemen again...
(22-01-2013 09:31 AM)Misanthropik Wrote: Scientific issues aside; as most others have said, the ethical outrage will likely prevent such a thing. A bunch of bleeding hearts will stand in the way of good science.I'm not so sure that it's good science, but I think the ethical issue is clearly on the side of not doing this. Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims. Science is not a subject, but a method. "We all got holes to fill, and them holes are all that's real; Some fall on you like a storm, sometimes you dig your own." |
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22-01-2013, 09:36 AM
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RE: Welp... gonna have Cavemen again...
I am a little confused as to what the ethical dilemma really is. Are people under the impression that cloning a Neanderthal means that we would put it in a cage and cut it open to see what is inside?
I am sure we would love to learn of its anatomy in detail but we have noninvasive measures we could use to see it. Neanderthal's had a larger brain capacity than modern humans, so any cloned version would (or should) be more than capable of integrating into society and learning as much as any other person. Different? Yes. A medical intervention of nature by man? Absolutely, but so is every time we give someone cholesterol medicine. Want to read the ramblings and musings of someone who fancies themselves a scientist? Check out my blog at http://scientosis.blogspot.com/ |
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22-01-2013, 09:39 AM
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All science is good science. Knowledge expansion through experimentation and discovery is not a bad thing. Collateral damage and unethical reprocutions are bad things.
There was a time when we used to inflict what amounts to torture upon mental patients in an attempt to cure them of their ills. It was only through such horrific trial and error that the science expanded into the caring and effective treatments we have today. Gotta break a few eggs, as they say. Through profound pain comes profound knowledge. Ridi, Pagliaccio, sul tuo amore infranto! Ridi del duol, che t'avvelena il cor! |
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22-01-2013, 09:39 AM
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RE: Welp... gonna have Cavemen again...
Invasive or not invasive, his/her life would be a spectacle (at best). You don't bring living, sentient beings into this world just so you can study or experiment on them.
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22-01-2013, 09:41 AM
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(22-01-2013 09:39 AM)Vera Wrote: You don't bring living, sentient beings into this world just so you can study or experiment on them.Says who?
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22-01-2013, 09:42 AM
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RE: Welp... gonna have Cavemen again...
But we already do human trials and experiment on people...
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22-01-2013, 09:43 AM
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(22-01-2013 09:41 AM)Vosur Wrote: Says who?Most people who are not borderline sociopaths. (22-01-2013 09:42 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote: But we already do human trials and experiment on people...People who have agreed to this however. Not people who were brought into this world for the specific purpose to be experimented upon. Major difference. |
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22-01-2013, 09:44 AM
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RE: Welp... gonna have Cavemen again...
Just because we clone them, doesn't mean we would do it involuntarily. Assign them a guardian that has no vested interest in the science and allow them to make decisions as parents.
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22-01-2013, 09:45 AM
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RE: Welp... gonna have Cavemen again...
I wasn't aware that test-tube babies signed wavers.
Gonna take this over to the "What Did You Learn Today?" thread. Through profound pain comes profound knowledge. Ridi, Pagliaccio, sul tuo amore infranto! Ridi del duol, che t'avvelena il cor! |
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