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06-02-2018, 11:09 AM
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(04-02-2018 09:30 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(04-02-2018 08:51 AM)kim Wrote:  Oh oh ... my "read this next" list, just got bigger. Wink

It's good if hard to read book. It is convincing, objective and perfectly capable of showing how nazi economy ticked.

Yep - that's my thing. Thumbsup

Quick question: does it delve into the contributions of American industrialists ... specifically Henry Ford? I've been in a long running discussion with a friend about Ford's involvement and I'd love to have a better handle on some details. Shy

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06-02-2018, 11:20 AM (This post was last modified: 06-02-2018 12:29 PM by Szuchow.)
RE: What Are You Currently Reading?
(06-02-2018 11:09 AM)kim Wrote:  
(04-02-2018 09:30 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  It's good if hard to read book. It is convincing, objective and perfectly capable of showing how nazi economy ticked.

Yep - that's my thing. Thumbsup

Quick question: does it delve into the contributions of American industrialists ... specifically Henry Ford? I've been in a long running discussion with a friend about Ford's involvement and I'd love to have a better handle on some details. Shy

It mentions Ford but in context of "Ford methods" rather than anything else. If I'm not mistaken you could mind more about Ford in Miroir de l'Occident: Le nazisme et la civilisation occidentale by Jean-Louis Vullierme.

Tooze book focus on Nazi economy and relations between state and big business. It also demythologize Speer, shows "pragmatic" side to Shoah and has much to say about German wartime economy.

ETA: All in all it kinda stands in opposition to Gotz Aly Hitler's Beneficiaries: Plunder, Racial War, and the Nazi Welfare State.

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08-02-2018, 08:21 AM (This post was last modified: 08-02-2018 09:28 AM by Szuchow.)
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Primed for Violence: Murder, Antisemitism, and Democratic Politics in Interwar Poland by Paweł Brykczyński.

ETA: Looks like that Poland right wing has long tradition of being pathetic, ignorant, bigoted shit-smeared clique of clowns. Some things never change it seems.

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17-02-2018, 03:57 AM
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'The Bonobo and The Atheist: In Search of Humanism Among the Primates' by Frans De Waal

I've just started it. Stumbled across De Waal's TED talk on animal morality awhile ago, so I bought the book.
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19-02-2018, 03:10 AM
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The Laughter of Killers: Breivik et al by Klaus Theweleit.

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21-02-2018, 04:01 AM
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FINALLY finished High Rise, and it was pretty good in the end. [For anyone wanting to read, it's a short read, I've just been very busy and not had time to read the whole thing haha].

Moving onto: The Average American Male by Chad Kultgen

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22-02-2018, 06:51 AM
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(21-02-2018 04:01 AM)OakTree500 Wrote:  Moving onto: The Average American Male by Chad Kultgen
So I finished this in one day Laugh out load It was pretty good, I really enjoyed it.

Moving onto: L.A Confidential by James Ellroy Thumbsup

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22-02-2018, 08:10 AM
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Jump into modernity. Development policy in peripheral countries in years 1943–1980 by Adam Leszczyński.

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22-02-2018, 12:56 PM
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I'm currently reading (or attempting to read) several things:

1. The American Revolution: Writings from the Pamphlet Debate: Volume 1, 1764-1772 -- I started this a few weeks ago. It's the first of 5 books (all published by the Library of America) dealing with the lead-up to the American Revolution, the war itself, and the debate over the Constitution afterward -- all told in the words of the people involved. Very interesting stuff, and I intend to read all 5 volumes, but they are not especially easy reading, and I've been low on energy lately, so I have put this aside for the time being.

2. St. Augustine, Confessions (Frank Sheed translation) -- I already read this a few months ago, in a different translation (Pusey). This one is better, and although Augustine can be very wordy, this is still very well-written, and has some profound insights, even for the non-religious. But, like #1 above, it's not easy reading, and I've been struggling to keep going in my low-energy state.

3. Stephen King, Night Shift -- King is a "guilty pleasure" for me. Whatever his deficiencies, he is a master storyteller, and everything I've read by him is a "page-turner". He's also quite easy to read (unlike my first two selections), and he is my go-to recently when I feel like reading but don't have the energy to read anything difficult.

4. I also have my eye on Edmund Wilson's To the Finland Station (a sort of intellectual history of socialism up to 1917), but haven't started it yet.
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24-02-2018, 11:57 PM
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You Lost Me: Why Young Christians Are Leaving Church... and Rethinking Faith by David Kinnaman.

In 2007, when I was 20 years old and still a Baptist, I read Kinnaman's "UnChristian". This is, to an extent, a follow up to that work. "unChristian" was a look at how 16-29 year olds view the church; now Kinnaman looks at data on why the same age group is leaving the church in record numbers. Unfortunately by the time I got around to reading this, the statistics are already out of date, as the Barna Group which Kinnaman heads, has released new figures showing only 9% of Generation Z is an "engaged Christian", or a weekly attender of church service. About a third are "churched", which is defined in the newer study, as attending once every six months (or as most Christians would say "Christmas and Easter").

Anyhow, back to the book itself instead of the even newer research, Kinnaman has said in interviews that the problem of 18-29 year olds dropping out is an old one, but that it's also something new. However, despite the myriad of reasons that people gave, the central themes in this book tend to be two: the idea that this generation is post-institutional, and the other, that churches relied almost entirely on emotion and were incapable of giving complex and nuanced answers to complicated questions. I know that when I was a Baptist, that was part of why I left (in addition to hypocrisy and hatred...other points that come up in this book). I ended up Catholic, but most of those that Kinnaman is looking at, did not. They became what he terms "prodigals", because it's just too hard to use the a-word of atheist, and "prodigals" one would suppose, gives some sort of hope a person will return to the fold.

Also, Kinnaman is writing from a biased Evangelical perspective. Which brings me to my main criticism of the book, Kinnaman is operating from a partially Calvinist perspective, the Perseverance of the Saints, where one cannot be truly a Christian and leave. This does not leave deconversion as a reason for why people may leave the church, and having seen so may I grew up with leave from the church, who had been so on fire for God, I feel he's doing a disservice to his readers by ignoring it to the extent that he does.

Onwards to my own personal opinion, which he comes so close to with, "Young adults are digital natives immersed in a glossy pop culture that prefers speed over depth, sex over wholeness and opinion over truth." Young adults are digital natives, and likewise the generation coming up behind the "Mosaics" as he calls them, except moreso. That means they're used to sifting through BS and that they're not just going to believe you when you tell them something, especially things it takes less than a minute to Google and disprove. So much of sermons in mainline denominations and Evangelical churches rely upon easily disproven stories that have been repeated and circulated for years, but don't exist, or upon stereotypes that don't play out in real life (I've worked with two atheist Philosophy professors, neither of whom hated - or even believed in - God, contrary to what films like God's Not Dead and countless sermons would have one believe). Contradictions in Scripture are easier to spot, and the church no longer has a stranglehold on the marketplace of ideas. And "opinion over truth"? You may have interviewed 5000 young adults as part of the research for this, but you've learned nothing. Truth is what they tend to be seeking most, and it is groups like yours that is failing to give it to them.

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