What Degrees Are A Good Bet to Go To Mars?
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05-10-2016, 10:10 AM
RE: What Degrees Are A Good Bet to Go To Mars?
The B ark includes security guards if that's what you mean Smile
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05-10-2016, 10:39 AM
RE: What Degrees Are A Good Bet to Go To Mars?
(05-10-2016 09:45 AM)tomilay Wrote:  
(04-10-2016 11:06 PM)Cumulus Wrote:  [Image: maxresdefault.jpg]

I haven't taken any college and I have an interest in Astrophysics and Quantum Mechanics.

I very much want to be a part of SpaceX's mission to colonize Mars or NASA's Orion Mission to Mars. I realize I might not be able to finish my PhD in Astrophysics, (or whatever degree they want on the Red Planet) in time to go in the mid 2020's but I could still be part of a second or third generation of humans to travel to Mars.

So I was wondering if any of you knew what sort of degrees lead to the path of colonizing Mars. Not helping humans to go to Mars, actually going to Mars. What degree should I consider pursuing that lines up with my interests but also gets me to Mars?

I was thinking I could be a Payload or Mission Specialist. What do you think?

I think degrees or knowledge will have to be spread out - only polymaths need apply. But more than just education, the personality. If you can survive in Antarctica by yourself for a year - without losing your mind, even without a degree, you are probably better suited for the trip than someone with an otherwise excellent degree.

Mars, in the early days, will be no place for softies and those who are addicted to human touch and reassurances.
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05-10-2016, 10:42 AM
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(05-10-2016 09:58 AM)yakherder Wrote:  
(05-10-2016 09:52 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  Yeah make sure you go on the ship with the Hairdressers, tired TV producers, insurance salesmen, personnel officers, security guards, public relations executives, management consultants. It will be called the B ark.

I was kind of going for the space shuttle door gunner position myself.

Gasp Life expectancy 90 seconds instead of one week. One week was the going rate for helicopter door gunners in Viet Nam in the '60s and '70s.
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05-10-2016, 10:47 AM
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(05-10-2016 10:42 AM)Fireball Wrote:  
(05-10-2016 09:58 AM)yakherder Wrote:  I was kind of going for the space shuttle door gunner position myself.

Gasp Life expectancy 90 seconds instead of one week. One week was the going rate for helicopter door gunners in Viet Nam in the '60s and '70s.

Acting as a roof gunner is one of the few roles in which I put in every single plate no matter how much it weighs me down Tongue

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05-10-2016, 11:11 AM (This post was last modified: 05-10-2016 11:17 AM by Cumulus.)
RE: What Degrees Are A Good Bet to Go To Mars?
(05-10-2016 04:58 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  
(05-10-2016 04:27 AM)Cumulus Wrote:  I'm not entirely sure Hollywood are the people to ask about what kind of jobs NASA or SpaceX wants to send into space. I haven't seen the movie yet but I plan on watching it on Netflix sometime.

First, I'm quoting the book, not Whollyweird. And the actual director of NASA agrees with Andy Weir on this, so don't panic.

Second, read the book first. It's a free download if you Google.

Oh okay. Well I'm not too hyped for Botany, sorry. Also, I know people are gonna' hate me for this, but I prefer movie versions over book versions.

Here's my rant on Movies vs Books if you're interested:
Think about it. The Movie is shorter and more condensed, so more time to do other things. It holds your attention more with visuals and sounds and is more fun too. Plus sometimes the movies produce good soundtracks you can listen to later. Or good clips you can use to make memes! I would say a movie makes more of an experience than a book does.

Some people say Movies don't include everything and aren't true to the book. But honestly I don't care if it includes everything and isn't completely true to the book. Honestly I don't want to know every little detail, that's just too much information. I'd rather see the whole picture then every little detail as far as Movies vs Books goes.

Also books are huge, heavy, and take up too much space. DVD case's are light, small, and don't take up too much space. And if you don't want the DVD, you can watch the movie just fine at the theatre or online; no physical space taken up.

Movies promote 'together-ness' more than books. You can all watch a movie together but can you read a book together? Yes, but this is easily more accomplished with a movie.

In short, Movies are easy, simple, and fun! Books are heavy, extensive, and require work mentally.

And that was my Books vs Movies rant. Sorry, had to get it out. I think I'll make this a thread in the Casual Coffeehouse.

tomilay Wrote:I think degrees or knowledge will have to be spread out - only polymaths need apply. But more than just education, the personality. If you can survive in Antarctica by yourself for a year - without losing your mind, even without a degree, you are probably better suited for the trip than someone with an otherwise excellent degree.

Mars, in the early days, will be no place for softies and those who are addicted to human touch and reassurances.

I think I'll be fine. I prefer being alone and I usually don't need reassurance or human interaction that much, just me being me. I imagine if I take my laptop with some games on it, something to draw on, maybe my videogames (I have a WiiU, a 3DS, a PS4, a PS3, a PSVITA, and an XBOX1 because I'm a gaming enthusiast), etc. then that should keep me entertained for the 1-2 hours of free time I'll have haha.

I imagine I'll be working out 2-3 hours to fight muscle dystrophy although it won't be as bad as it is in Space since Mars, albeit smaller than Earth, isn't THAT smaller than Earth so it's gravity should be similar than say that of... literally a zero gravity environment like space.

I would be excited to devote my life to making scientific advances on another planet and work with other people even if we have to share a room together.

TheInquisition Wrote:Geology, botany, mechanical engineering, planetary space weather.

Planetary Space Weather doesn't sound like a bad idea. I'm currently working for the AF as a weather forecaster so I know a little bit about weather. I don't hate it but I don't love it either. I do find it interesting just not as interesting as say... black holes, or spooky-action-at-a-distance.

Really the best fit for me would just be a freaking Astrophysicist but that doesn't get me into Space, the least of all Mars. Still, great suggestion. I'll look into it. Keep 'em coming Folks!
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05-10-2016, 12:17 PM
RE: What Degrees Are A Good Bet to Go To Mars?
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05-10-2016, 12:24 PM
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(05-10-2016 10:39 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  You should be able to survive for a few years in a single room with five other people.

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...YEARS IN A SINGLE ROOM WITH..OTHER PEOPLE...

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05-10-2016, 12:27 PM
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(05-10-2016 10:42 AM)Fireball Wrote:  
(05-10-2016 09:58 AM)yakherder Wrote:  I was kind of going for the space shuttle door gunner position myself.

Gasp Life expectancy 90 seconds instead of one week. One week was the going rate for helicopter door gunners in Viet Nam in the '60s and '70s.

My brother-in-law's brother did two tours swinging a .50 on a CH-47. Then he died crossing a street in Indianapolis. Facepalm
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05-10-2016, 12:51 PM
RE: What Degrees Are A Good Bet to Go To Mars?
Mechanical Engineering - for building shelters that would be able to survive in no atmosphere.
Botanist - food is going to be the biggest problem. Even if you have something that can survive the elements, hunger will kill you quickly.
Psychologist - The first people to land on mars are not coming back. separated from famliy/ friends, and knowing you trapped on a waste land planet till your dying day will take a toll on many people.

I imagine the first settlement will be on the surface. But they would have to work to build underground. Dust storms are relentless, and with little atmosphere the sun will be extra dangerous. People health would have to be in peak condition. To make a utopia with little to no desise. Which makes me think. After several generations on mars will they lack the ability to fight earthly viruses? I imagine vaccines could still be applied but if they're not sent fresh supplies of earth sicknesses would mars have the same requirements?

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05-10-2016, 12:57 PM
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(05-10-2016 12:24 PM)unfogged Wrote:  
(05-10-2016 10:39 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  You should be able to survive for a few years in a single room with five other people.

Gasp

...YEARS IN A SINGLE ROOM WITH..OTHER PEOPLE...

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