What Happens when America can no longer feed the world?
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07-07-2014, 08:53 PM
RE: What Happens when America can no longer feed the world?
Fresh water shortage is an impending problem world wide. Some parts of the world will feel it much sooner than others. I live in california. Here we can expect to dry up within the next twenty to thirty years, depending on whose calendar you are following. Mexico might start have problems as soon as the next ten years.

If you add on to that concerns that worldwide oil supplies might dwindle and dry up sometime in the next 100 years ( it is difficult to really say how much we have left, but demand is rising and the oil in the middle east, for one, will be running out rather soon), a planet wide food shortage is certainly impending. Billions of people could face starvation if we don't start taking action very soon.
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07-07-2014, 08:59 PM
RE: What Happens when America can no longer feed the world?
(07-07-2014 08:46 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(07-07-2014 08:44 PM)sporehux Wrote:  So soylent green will be primarily murkin flavour.

Eventually but it will start in the poorer nations. The Arab spring began because of food prices increasing.

That, and the demographic boom. Yemen, for example, is one of the youngest countries on the planet. Where they have no food, no money, and no jobs. And no water.

Plenty of war, famine, pestilence, and death, though.

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07-07-2014, 09:00 PM
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(07-07-2014 01:00 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(07-07-2014 12:44 PM)DLJ Wrote:  What happens when America can no longer feed the world?

How am I not seeing the problem?

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Clearly you're underestimating the amount of naked women and fish that are existing in this world. There's plenty to go around, it's just a logistics issue.

The solvent for saying when merica can't feed to world is changing the process of farming. Instead of making that travel issue of large horizontal plans where population is low for crops. You will see more crops grown in high population areas, vertically. Buildings built for growing crops will improve these situations and other technological based crop improvements.

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07-07-2014, 09:10 PM
RE: What Happens when America can no longer feed the world?
(07-07-2014 08:53 PM)Michael_Tadlock Wrote:  Fresh water shortage is an impending problem world wide. Some parts of the world will feel it much sooner than others. I live in california. Here we can expect to dry up within the next twenty to thirty years, depending on whose calendar you are following. Mexico might start have problems as soon as the next ten years.

If you add on to that concerns that worldwide oil supplies might dwindle and dry up sometime in the next 100 years ( it is difficult to really say how much we have left, but demand is rising and the oil in the middle east, for one, will be running out rather soon), a planet wide food shortage is certainly impending. Billions of people could face starvation if we don't start taking action very soon.

Well; not the whole world; only about a third of it (but about half the population). The Americas as a whole are incredibly water-rich. Europe's all right, as is north-east Asia. It's Africa and south Asia where the worst will hit; but fortunately those places are totally stable and able to cope, right?

Not that there aren't local issues. The US southwest built their boom years on finite groundwater. They've already started begging us for pipelines from the great lakes. And since Canada wouldn't have a hope in hell of saying 'no' on its own, it's quite reassuring to hear the likes of New York and Michigan telling Arizona to go fuck themselves.

We're all fucked on oil. We have neither the will nor the technology to make any rapid transition to renewables, and the one perfect transitional source we have (nuclear power) is off the list because it frightens morons.

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07-07-2014, 09:22 PM
RE: What Happens when America can no longer feed the world?
(07-07-2014 09:10 PM)cjlr Wrote:  
(07-07-2014 08:53 PM)Michael_Tadlock Wrote:  Fresh water shortage is an impending problem world wide. Some parts of the world will feel it much sooner than others. I live in california. Here we can expect to dry up within the next twenty to thirty years, depending on whose calendar you are following. Mexico might start have problems as soon as the next ten years.

If you add on to that concerns that worldwide oil supplies might dwindle and dry up sometime in the next 100 years ( it is difficult to really say how much we have left, but demand is rising and the oil in the middle east, for one, will be running out rather soon), a planet wide food shortage is certainly impending. Billions of people could face starvation if we don't start taking action very soon.

Well; not the whole world; only about a third of it (but about half the population). The Americas as a whole are incredibly water-rich. Europe's all right, as is north-east Asia. It's Africa and south Asia where the worst will hit; but fortunately those places are totally stable and able to cope, right?

Not that there aren't local issues. The US southwest built their boom years on finite groundwater. They've already started begging us for pipelines from the great lakes. And since Canada wouldn't have a hope in hell of saying 'no' on its own, it's quite reassuring to hear the likes of New York and Michigan telling Arizona to go fuck themselves.

We're all fucked on oil. We have neither the will nor the technology to make any rapid transition to renewables, and the one perfect transitional source we have (nuclear power) is off the list because it frightens morons.

There is a countdown going on right now and the longer we put off dealing with these issues the faster that countdown is going to speed up. There is no magical one shot solution and really it will be painful any way we go. That is always a hard sell, a little short term pain to ease long term pain. People don't like to think long term.

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07-07-2014, 09:23 PM
RE: What Happens when America can no longer feed the world?
(07-07-2014 09:10 PM)cjlr Wrote:  [quote='Michael_Tadlock' pid='604329' dateline='1404788011']
We're all fucked on oil. We have neither the will nor the technology to make any rapid transition to renewables, and the one perfect transitional source we have (nuclear power) is off the list because it frightens morons.

True dat
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07-07-2014, 11:39 PM
RE: What Happens when America can no longer feed the world?
(07-07-2014 09:23 PM)Michael_Tadlock Wrote:  
(07-07-2014 09:10 PM)cjlr Wrote:  [quote='Michael_Tadlock' pid='604329' dateline='1404788011']
We're all fucked on oil. We have neither the will nor the technology to make any rapid transition to renewables, and the one perfect transitional source we have (nuclear power) is off the list because it frightens morons.

True dat

But what about the horrendous death toll from the fukashima incident of ZERO people.

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08-07-2014, 12:00 AM
RE: What Happens when America can no longer feed the world?
(07-07-2014 11:39 PM)sporehux Wrote:  
(07-07-2014 09:23 PM)Michael_Tadlock Wrote:  True dat

But what about the horrendous death toll from the fukashima incident of ZERO people.

Ask that and it wouldn't surprise me if you got the response 'Chernobyl'.

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08-07-2014, 12:14 AM
RE: What Happens when America can no longer feed the world?
(08-07-2014 12:00 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(07-07-2014 11:39 PM)sporehux Wrote:  But what about the horrendous death toll from the fukashima incident of ZERO people.

Ask that and it wouldn't surprise me if you got the response 'Chernobyl'.

Nuclear power does not kill people, Russian incompetence kills people.

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08-07-2014, 06:36 AM
RE: What Happens when America can no longer feed the world?
Nuclear power is allot cleaner and safer than coal power. You could add in all the deaths from anything nuclear including chernobyl, nagasaki and hiroshima and nuclear power still comes off smelling like a rose.

Most people don't consider the deaths from coal power, because the pollutants are considered natural and normal.

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