What If Today A Person Murdered People And Said They Were Ordered To Do So By God?
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09-05-2014, 08:01 PM
RE: What If Today A Person Murdered People And Said They Were Ordered To Do So By God?
(09-05-2014 08:00 PM)WindyCityJazz Wrote:  
(09-05-2014 07:31 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  No. He was right.

Interesting...so you support the murder of children in certain situations. I don't think that there is ever a situation where child murder is right. If a god actually ordered such a thing, then he is an evil prick.
I never support murder
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09-05-2014, 08:02 PM
RE: What If Today A Person Murdered People And Said They Were Ordered To Do So By God?
(09-05-2014 08:01 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  I never support murder

Even if your god orders it?
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09-05-2014, 08:03 PM
RE: What If Today A Person Murdered People And Said They Were Ordered To Do So By God?
(09-05-2014 08:01 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(09-05-2014 08:00 PM)WindyCityJazz Wrote:  Interesting...so you support the murder of children in certain situations. I don't think that there is ever a situation where child murder is right. If a god actually ordered such a thing, then he is an evil prick.
I never support murder

How is ordering children and babies to be slaughtered not murder?

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09-05-2014, 08:07 PM
RE: What If Today A Person Murdered People And Said They Were Ordered To Do So By God?
(09-05-2014 08:02 PM)TheBear Wrote:  
(09-05-2014 08:01 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  I never support murder

Even if your god orders it?

God has never murdered or ordered murder.
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09-05-2014, 08:41 PM
RE: What If Today A Person Murdered People And Said They Were Ordered To Do So By God?
(09-05-2014 08:07 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(09-05-2014 08:02 PM)TheBear Wrote:  Even if your god orders it?

God has never murdered or ordered murder.

Seriously? Your infallible holy book is filled with passages about your god killing babies and children:


"Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children." (Isaiah 13:15-18)

"If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted." (Leviticus 26:21-22)

"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7)

"The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children." (Hosea 9:11-16)

"Next we headed for the land of Bashan, where King Og and his army attacked us at Edrei. But the LORD told me, 'Do not be afraid of him, for I have given you victory over Og and his army, giving you his entire land. Treat him just as you treated King Sihon of the Amorites, who ruled in Heshbon.' So the LORD our God handed King Og and all his people over to us, and we killed them all. We conquered all sixty of his towns, the entire Argob region in his kingdom of Bashan. These were all fortified cities with high walls and barred gates. We also took many unwalled villages at the same time. We completely destroyed the kingdom of Bashan, just as we had destroyed King Sihon of Heshbon. We destroyed all the people in every town we conquered – men, women, and children alike. But we kept all the livestock for ourselves and took plunder from all the towns." (Deuteronomy 3:1-7)

Like it or not, THAT is child murder at the hands of your god! You obviously just choose to stick your fingers in your ears and say "La la la! I can't hear you!"

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09-05-2014, 09:04 PM
RE: What If Today A Person Murdered People And Said They Were Ordered To Do So By God?
(09-05-2014 08:07 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  ... God has never murdered or ordered murder.

Obviously, the meaning of the word "murder" here is a private meaning, not intended for public usage. Trolls do that. Use private meanings instead of public ones to deliberately spark rhetorical heat. There's no point responding to something like that. It's like trying to reason with a mosquito.
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09-05-2014, 09:35 PM
RE: What If Today A Person Murdered People And Said They Were Ordered To Do So By God?
(09-05-2014 08:07 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(09-05-2014 08:02 PM)TheBear Wrote:  Even if your god orders it?

God has never murdered or ordered murder.

You are seriously delusional. Or have you never read the Bible? Consider

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09-05-2014, 10:47 PM (This post was last modified: 09-05-2014 10:59 PM by Free Thought.)
RE: What If Today A Person Murdered People And Said They Were Ordered To Do So By God?
(09-05-2014 09:35 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(09-05-2014 08:07 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  God has never murdered or ordered murder.

You are seriously delusional. Or have you never read the Bible? Consider

It's not murder if they started it.

All those Egyptian first-borns deserved it.

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09-05-2014, 11:11 PM
RE: What If Today A Person Murdered People And Said They Were Ordered To Do So By God?
(09-05-2014 08:01 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(09-05-2014 08:00 PM)WindyCityJazz Wrote:  Interesting...so you support the murder of children in certain situations. I don't think that there is ever a situation where child murder is right. If a god actually ordered such a thing, then he is an evil prick.
I never support murder

unless it's "eradicating people who make it their life's goal of terrorizing people?"




ugh, I feel horrible even responding to this... but seriously. He JUST said eradicate terrorists. I guess eradicate and murder are totally different.

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09-05-2014, 11:30 PM
RE: What If Today A Person Murdered People And Said They Were Ordered To Do So By God?
(09-05-2014 08:07 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(09-05-2014 08:02 PM)TheBear Wrote:  Even if your god orders it?

God has never murdered or ordered murder.

What do you think happened to Lot's wife?

Honestly. It's a tall tale. I'd like to hear what you think about that story and what happened to her and what you think about it.

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