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08-04-2017, 04:17 PM
RE: What Intelligent Design might tell us about a god.
Let's also keep in mind that dog purebred dog breeds have standards that have been set up by organizations that represent the breed. There can be a fair amount of deviation and some breeds or lines are bred to be on the bigger side and some on the smaller side.

If you were to take a couple of Great Danes and breed them for the purpose of producing smaller and smaller dogs and did the opposite with Chihuahuas (who already cover a large span of sizes) it would not such an issue.

When you think of a Great Dane you think huge, tall dog but not all are like that. When you think Chihuahua you think small...maybe even tiny in the case of down breeding to 'teacup' size.

Now, it you get a dog of each breed that is closer in size than the standard do you think they could breed? Of course they could.

Their species didn't change...their size did.

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08-04-2017, 04:18 PM
RE: What Intelligent Design might tell us about a god.
(08-04-2017 02:42 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  
(08-04-2017 01:52 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Oh, I dunno.
I think this was very intelligently designed ... IF you're a Urologist with boat payments.

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08-04-2017, 04:20 PM
RE: What Intelligent Design might tell us about a god.
(08-04-2017 04:17 PM)Anjele Wrote:  Let's also keep in mind that dog purebred dog breeds have standards that have been set up by organizations that represent the breed. There can be a fair amount of deviation and some breeds or lines are bred to be on the bigger side and some on the smaller side.

If you were to take a couple of Great Danes and breed them for the purpose of producing smaller and smaller dogs and did the opposite with Chihuahuas (who already cover a large span of sizes) it would not such an issue.

When you think of a Great Dane you think huge, tall dog but not all are like that. When you think Chihuahua you think small...maybe even tiny in the case of down breeding to 'teacup' size.

Now, it you get a dog of each breed that is closer in size than the standard do you think they could breed? Of course they could.

Their species didn't change...their size did.
The definition of species is "can successfully breed together with fertile offspring." So they're new species of dog compared to each other.

Try cross-breeding a Smart car with a semi-tractor.
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08-04-2017, 04:27 PM
RE: What Intelligent Design might tell us about a god.
(08-04-2017 04:20 PM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  
(08-04-2017 04:17 PM)Anjele Wrote:  Let's also keep in mind that dog purebred dog breeds have standards that have been set up by organizations that represent the breed. There can be a fair amount of deviation and some breeds or lines are bred to be on the bigger side and some on the smaller side.

If you were to take a couple of Great Danes and breed them for the purpose of producing smaller and smaller dogs and did the opposite with Chihuahuas (who already cover a large span of sizes) it would not such an issue.

When you think of a Great Dane you think huge, tall dog but not all are like that. When you think Chihuahua you think small...maybe even tiny in the case of down breeding to 'teacup' size.

Now, it you get a dog of each breed that is closer in size than the standard do you think they could breed? Of course they could.

Their species didn't change...their size did.
The definition of species is "can successfully breed together with fertile offspring." So they're new species of dog compared to each other.

Try cross-breeding a Smart car with a semi-tractor.

Great argument. I hadn't heard about cross-breeding vehicles. Or is that where crossovers came from. Consider

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08-04-2017, 04:41 PM
RE: What Intelligent Design might tell us about a god.
(08-04-2017 04:27 PM)Anjele Wrote:  
(08-04-2017 04:20 PM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  The definition of species is "can successfully breed together with fertile offspring." So they're new species of dog compared to each other.

Try cross-breeding a Smart car with a semi-tractor.

Great argument. I hadn't heard about cross-breeding vehicles. Or is that where crossovers came from. Consider

It's an analogy.
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08-04-2017, 04:45 PM
RE: What Intelligent Design might tell us about a god.
(08-04-2017 04:41 PM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  
(08-04-2017 04:27 PM)Anjele Wrote:  Great argument. I hadn't heard about cross-breeding vehicles. Or is that where crossovers came from. Consider

It's an analogy.

It was sarcasm.

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08-04-2017, 05:03 PM
RE: What Intelligent Design might tell us about a god.
(08-04-2017 04:45 PM)Anjele Wrote:  
(08-04-2017 04:41 PM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  It's an analogy.

It was sarcasm.

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08-04-2017, 06:04 PM
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(08-04-2017 12:59 PM)unsapien Wrote:  And in honour if the banana man...

"God's" banana:

[Image: banana.png]


"Humanity's" banana:

[Image: Banana.jpg?w=630&h=456&z...p;amp;q=89]

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08-04-2017, 06:43 PM
RE: What Intelligent Design might tell us about a god.
that it used evolution.
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08-04-2017, 08:19 PM
RE: What Intelligent Design might tell us about a god.
All the designers we know of are products of nature.
Nature produces designers.
Designers use the raw materials found within nature to make specific shapes and configurations that the designer desires.

These can be functional tools, artistic creations or any number of items that the designer cannot find within nature. Sometimes a designer may try to copy what it finds in nature. Making diamonds, etc

If an alien species arrived on Earth and saw a table I made and designed, what could they assume about its designer ?

How tall am I ?
What is my body shape ?
Do I have arms, tentacles ?
Am I part machine ? Bionic man ?
Am I an Android ?
Am I a god ?

Am I friendly or war like ?
Do I even exist anymore ?
(Maybe they land at some distant point in the future)

Probably the only thing they could determine is that the universe and the planet are by far much older than I am.

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