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27-11-2012, 03:39 PM
What Proof do Theists Want?
In response to Egors post asking what proof atheists would require for the belief in a god.

I'm curious as to what proof would be sufficient to prove the lack of a god. Maybe just the god they believe in, maybe in another I don't know.

To me, I can't say there is no god whatsoever, but it seems as though given sufficient time humans seem to kick their gods to the curb which in itself seems to be good evidence of the likelihood that the current generation of cool hip happening gods are made up.

The invention of writing and the higher occurrence of literacy has helped the life span of some religions obviously as it has allowed them to spread the stories further across time before they are forgotten and the newer explanations are accepted as the norm.

Anyway, what would discredit the existence of your god in your eyes?

Again, I am not saying they don't exist even though I don't find it probable that they do, I'm just wondering if there is anything that would make you stop believing? And if there is nothing, then how much credibility does that give your religious belief?

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27-11-2012, 04:24 PM
RE: What Proof do Theists Want?
I don't know what it would take. Perhaps an alien coming down saying they created our planet as a science experiment and they finally got around to checking up on our progress?

Can you imagine the chaos?


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27-11-2012, 04:40 PM
RE: What Proof do Theists Want?
Hey, Lucradis.

Empirical proof.

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27-11-2012, 04:41 PM
RE: What Proof do Theists Want?
(27-11-2012 04:24 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  I don't know what it would take. Perhaps an alien coming down saying they created our planet as a science experiment and they finally got around to checking up on our progress?

Can you imagine the chaos?
Wouldn't that just give us a new god?

Wait, we already have the alien-is-god religion. All Hail Mighty Xenu!

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27-11-2012, 04:59 PM
RE: What Proof do Theists Want?
Well obviously the answer to the to the question is none, for evidence is everywhere, and we'll just keep moving the goal post back further and further.

Thus a lack of a god cannot be proven.. Unless we are talking about every god that is not mine, then that is obvious.

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27-11-2012, 05:00 PM
RE: What Proof do Theists Want?
(27-11-2012 04:41 PM)Aseptic Skeptic Wrote:  
(27-11-2012 04:24 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  I don't know what it would take. Perhaps an alien coming down saying they created our planet as a science experiment and they finally got around to checking up on our progress?

Can you imagine the chaos?
Wouldn't that just give us a new god?

Wait, we already have the alien-is-god religion. All Hail Mighty Xenu!

No, not unless they insinuated themselves and meddled like the biblical god allegedly did. If they simply seeded the universe for life and checked back....then go away for another million years....

I believe the Christian, Muslim, Hindu peoples would be thrown into chaos. The Buddhist's would probably be ok with it...since theirs is more a spiritual path than based on a deity.
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27-11-2012, 05:36 PM
RE: What Proof do Theists Want?
Could someone with more diligence and less laziness than me start compiling links to all the deconversion stories on the forums? Because I think that's what the OP is asking for.

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27-11-2012, 05:43 PM
RE: What Proof do Theists Want?
(27-11-2012 04:40 PM)Ghost Wrote:  Hey, Lucradis.

Empirical proof.

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27-11-2012, 05:55 PM
RE: What Proof do Theists Want?
Hey, Fst.

I cannot. And that is the point.

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27-11-2012, 05:59 PM
RE: What Proof do Theists Want?
(27-11-2012 03:39 PM)lucradis Wrote:  In response to Egors post asking what proof atheists would require for the belief in a god.

I'm curious as to what proof would be sufficient to prove the lack of a god.
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Anyway, what would discredit the existence of your god in your eyes?
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Luc,

These are two separate questions.

The first is generic for any / all gods. It requires one definition of a god (or gods).

Good luck finding that.

The second relates to a theist's personal god.
Ask 100 theists your question and you will get 100 different answers.

They will start with "My god...."

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