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31-10-2014, 06:05 AM
What are "feelings" and "emotion"?
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I'm interested in you opinions regarding "feelings" and "emotion". What are they and why do we experience them? What makes someone jump with fear, or embrace with love, or strike with hatred?

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31-10-2014, 06:13 AM
RE: What are "feelings" and "emotion"?
Technically speaking, feelings and emotions is just the terms we used to define and refer to some expressions people show with body language (or speaking). It all comes down to brain chemistry, even love. This doesn't demean the intrinsic value in love. Even if it's explicable by simply checking chemistry, it doesn't make it less valuable.

For example, Serotonin is a neurotransmitter. It's sometimes called the "happiness hormone" and you have some of it in your body. Chocolate contains some of it too, so consuming chocolate can help improving your mood.

But I'm not sure this is what you were looking for. Big Grin

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31-10-2014, 06:26 AM
RE: What are "feelings" and "emotion"?
(31-10-2014 06:13 AM)The Polyglot Atheist Wrote:  Technically speaking, feelings and emotions is just the terms we used to define and refer to some expressions people show with body language (or speaking). It all comes down to brain chemistry, even love. This doesn't demean the intrinsic value in love. Even if it's explicable by simply checking chemistry, it doesn't make it less valuable.

For example, Serotonin is a neurotransmitter. It's sometimes called the "happiness hormone" and you have some of it in your body. Chocolate contains some of it too, so consuming chocolate can help improving your mood.

But I'm not sure this is what you were looking for. Big Grin

This is what they are.

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31-10-2014, 06:28 AM
RE: What are "feelings" and "emotion"?
(31-10-2014 06:13 AM)The Polyglot Atheist Wrote:  Technically speaking, feelings and emotions is just the terms we used to define and refer to some expressions people show with body language (or speaking). It all comes down to brain chemistry, even love. This doesn't demean the intrinsic value in love. Even if it's explicable by simply checking chemistry, it doesn't make it less valuable.

For example, Serotonin is a neurotransmitter. It's sometimes called the "happiness hormone" and you have some of it in your body. Chocolate contains some of it too, so consuming chocolate can help improving your mood.

But I'm not sure this is what you were looking for. Big Grin

LOL, well thank you for posting, and its very good meeting you... Big Grin

2 questions

1) Do you think this applies to social morals too?

2) And what of consciousness itself? Is this in the atheist view a chemical reaction basically and nothing more?
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31-10-2014, 06:43 AM
RE: What are "feelings" and "emotion"?
(31-10-2014 06:28 AM)Wolfbitn Wrote:  
(31-10-2014 06:13 AM)The Polyglot Atheist Wrote:  Technically speaking, feelings and emotions is just the terms we used to define and refer to some expressions people show with body language (or speaking). It all comes down to brain chemistry, even love. This doesn't demean the intrinsic value in love. Even if it's explicable by simply checking chemistry, it doesn't make it less valuable.

For example, Serotonin is a neurotransmitter. It's sometimes called the "happiness hormone" and you have some of it in your body. Chocolate contains some of it too, so consuming chocolate can help improving your mood.

But I'm not sure this is what you were looking for. Big Grin

LOL, well thank you for posting, and its very good meeting you... Big Grin

2 questions

1) Do you think this applies to social morals too?
No.
Quote:2) And what of consciousness itself? Is this in the atheist view a chemical reaction basically and nothing more?
No.

You are confusing levels of explanation. It is not useful to try to explain a phenomenon in a reductionist manner at too low a level.

Morals are a social construct based on an evolved moral sense. That sense requires a lower level phenomenon, consciousness.

Consciousness requires mind requires brain requires organism requires life requires chemistry requires physics ...

We won't usefully or understandably explain consciousness in terms of elementary particles.

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31-10-2014, 06:50 AM
RE: What are "feelings" and "emotion"?
(31-10-2014 06:43 AM)Chas Wrote:  No.

You are confusing levels of explanation. It is not useful to try to explain a phenomenon in a reductionist manner at too low a level.

Morals are a social construct based on an evolved moral sense. That sense requires a lower level phenomenon, consciousness.

Consciousness requires mind requires brain requires organism requires life requires chemistry requires physics ...

We won't usefully or understandably explain consciousness in terms of elementary particles.

Hi and thank you too for posting!

Please feel free to expound beyond the elementary. I will be back in a few hours, and look forward to the post Smile
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31-10-2014, 06:51 AM
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I have the feeling I missed your intent, if so please let me know. Big Grin

Everything you think is a product of your brain, but again why would that make it less extraordinary? Our intelligence is extraordinary even without a supernatural being providing it.

Consciousness, until proven otherwise, is still a product of your own brain. You are your brain. It's not an atheist view, it's just the way it is. If someday someone proves the existence of consciousness outside of the physical brain with evidence, then I'll accept that as a fact. But until then, I have no reason to think it's the reality of things, if you know what I mean.

But does it make everything less valuable? I don't know, but I don't see why that would be the case.

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31-10-2014, 06:52 AM
RE: What are "feelings" and "emotion"?
What is love?

Baby, don't hurt me!

Don't hurt me!

No more.

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31-10-2014, 07:21 AM
RE: What are "feelings" and "emotion"?
(31-10-2014 06:50 AM)Wolfbitn Wrote:  
(31-10-2014 06:43 AM)Chas Wrote:  No.

You are confusing levels of explanation. It is not useful to try to explain a phenomenon in a reductionist manner at too low a level.

Morals are a social construct based on an evolved moral sense. That sense requires a lower level phenomenon, consciousness.

Consciousness requires mind requires brain requires organism requires life requires chemistry requires physics ...

We won't usefully or understandably explain consciousness in terms of elementary particles.

Hi and thank you too for posting!

Please feel free to expound beyond the elementary. I will be back in a few hours, and look forward to the post Smile

It's too large a field for me to do justice to it in a forum post.

There are many books that address these sorts of questions either directly or indirectly. This is partly a matter of the philosophy of science, especially the arguments about reductionism.

Douglas Hofstadter and Daniel Dennet also address this issue in their book The Mind's I: Fantasies and reflections on self and soul.

More recently, Dennett's books The Intentional Stance and Intuition Pumps and Other Tools for Thinking posit how we think about things.

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31-10-2014, 08:48 AM
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(31-10-2014 06:26 AM)undergroundp Wrote:  
(31-10-2014 06:13 AM)The Polyglot Atheist Wrote:  Technically speaking, feelings and emotions is just the terms we used to define and refer to some expressions people show with body language (or speaking). It all comes down to brain chemistry, even love. This doesn't demean the intrinsic value in love. Even if it's explicable by simply checking chemistry, it doesn't make it less valuable.

For example, Serotonin is a neurotransmitter. It's sometimes called the "happiness hormone" and you have some of it in your body. Chocolate contains some of it too, so consuming chocolate can help improving your mood.

But I'm not sure this is what you were looking for. Big Grin

This is what they are.

Evolution is the answer to the question "Why?"

because its the best explanation we have
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