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01-03-2015, 07:19 PM
RE: What are your thoughts on communism?
@One, I'm actually interested in knowing the scientific basis for humans wanting more. I don't understand why some people genuinely refuse more and others want it at all cost. Is it cultural or biological?

I'm a meritocrat so I oppose communism and socialism, but I don't think everything socialism and communism stands for is inherently bad. Meritocracy also opposes concentrating wealth without proper effort and correspondent reward.

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01-03-2015, 08:21 PM
RE: What are your thoughts on communism?
Only retards think communism is a good idea in theory.

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01-03-2015, 08:35 PM
RE: What are your thoughts on communism?
(01-03-2015 06:11 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(01-03-2015 06:05 PM)666wannabe Wrote:  "Dictatorship of the Proletariat". When has this ever really occurred? Communism (which is very different than Socialism) is generally installed as an "interim" system (which promises to move aside once the populace is re-educated). It generally turns out to be very Authoritarian and repressive of human rights and usually never gives up the power that has become entrenched in the governing body.

Kind of like a secular theocracy.

What is "secular theocracy"? Consider

It's a made-up term that was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. However, it means a political and economic "system" based on an unchangeable dogma (which tries to ignore the changes in society). The God is the dogma.

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01-03-2015, 08:37 PM
RE: What are your thoughts on communism?
(01-03-2015 04:55 PM)Blackout Wrote:  
(01-03-2015 01:37 PM)Minimalist Wrote:  Any one who sticks to any "ism" is bound to be disappointed. Humanity is too fucked up for that.

The only possibility is an -ism that will unite us all regardless of our differences. This is my opinion.

I tend toward Humanism.

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01-03-2015, 08:41 PM (This post was last modified: 01-03-2015 08:45 PM by yakherder.)
RE: What are your thoughts on communism?
Pretty much the same as heaven. Sounds great when you talk it up (arguably, though personally I think a world without competition would be boring as shit), but reliant on an irrational foundation that completely ignores reality.

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01-03-2015, 09:29 PM
RE: What are your thoughts on communism?
(01-03-2015 05:07 PM)DLJ Wrote:  
(01-03-2015 04:55 PM)Blackout Wrote:  The only possibility is an -ism that will unite us all regardless of our differences. This is my opinion.

Is there one like that?

If not, why not invent one.

I thought of 'harmonism', looked it up, found this, gave up.

Your turn.

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There will always be some douchebag who sings out of tune.

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01-03-2015, 10:02 PM
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(01-03-2015 06:41 PM)Shadow Fox Wrote:  In theory it could work. However, I don't really think any nation has ever adopted a real communist practice. Russia, cambodia and others have all deviated from it in some major way.

RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk.

CAMBODIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. The government takes both of them and shoots you.

PURE COMMUNISM: You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk.

Than again, it could not work if your country does not have enough money and has too many people. It could be an ideal government for smaller countries but horrible for larger ones; or not. Communism is not a threat, dangerous dictators are!

REALISTIC COMMUNISM: You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk, except for the milk you hide from your neighbor and sell on the black market.

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01-03-2015, 10:18 PM
RE: What are your thoughts on communism?
Communist political philosophers have been valuable in outlining the inner mechanics of capitalism, particularly at highlighting it's excesses and pitfalls.


As a workable political and economic formula it has been utterly disastrous. Its fundamental intentions are noble, but the very aspects of human nature it overlooks have led to its attempted implementations to be some of the greatest tragedies of the modern age.

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01-03-2015, 10:25 PM
RE: What are your thoughts on communism?
Human nature makes it unworkable.
Someone at some point is going to want to have it just a little bit better than their equal share.
Usually at the expense of someone else.
It can't sustain itself on a large scale.
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01-03-2015, 10:30 PM
RE: What are your thoughts on communism?
(01-03-2015 06:11 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(01-03-2015 06:05 PM)666wannabe Wrote:  ...
Kind of like a secular theocracy.

What is "secular theocracy"? Consider

Here is an well-written article that goes some way to explaining why a theist might not see "secular theocracy" as oxymoronic.

Worth a few minutes reading.

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