What can we do?
Post Reply
 
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Votes - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
30-01-2017, 12:24 PM
RE: What can we do?
(30-01-2017 12:23 PM)KUSA Wrote:  
(30-01-2017 10:52 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Donating to Syrian Refugees in the name of the dude who said I didn't belong in America.


How much did you donate?

Do I look stupid? Didn't I already tell you there's a man going 'round taking names?

#sigh
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 2 users Like GirlyMan's post
30-01-2017, 02:03 PM
RE: What can we do?
(25-01-2017 12:26 PM)Aliza Wrote:  
(25-01-2017 11:43 AM)dancefortwo Wrote:  We're all very smart people on this forum.....well, there's a couple people that are one brick short of a load Dodgy ....anyway, what do you all think we should do to fight against trump and his lunatic insanity. This guy is almost a modern version of Caligula. I almost expect him to bring a horse into the Oval Office and name him the head EPA.

I've written to my senators with 12 signatures attached, also my Congressman, I've donated to Planned Parenthood, the ACLU, I marched in the Women's Protest. I've signed petitions to have his taxes released. What can I/we do? Give me some ideas. This guy's dangerous.

I'm hiding in a bunker in an undisclosed location. I've got beer and canned goods to last me a decade. There's room for a few more if you want to join me. I'll PM you the global coordinates.

I'd join. Thumbsup

Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes GenesisNemesis's post
31-01-2017, 05:04 AM
RE: What can we do?
get as many people as you can to call and write to elected officials and don't stop till they yield t o your demands

organize protests/rallies etc
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 2 users Like Ace's post
31-01-2017, 05:53 AM
RE: What can we do?
As an outsider looking in I feel you are between a rock and a hard place, you have quite literally elected a despot, one week in and its chaos already. Idk what you guys can do, Trump won't care how many letters you write or how many protests you have or how many marches you organise they will be like water off a ducks back as we say in Britain. Here are my predictions. Abortion will become illegal except in extreme circumstances, freedom from religion will become even less socially acceptable than it is already, Trump will rule mainly by executive order, freedom of protest will be curtailed freedom of the press will also be curtailed either overtly or covertly, the gap between the rich and poor will widen, crime will increase. I'm disgusted by our governments complicity so far so will be protesting when Trump comes on his state visit. I think you guys ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO get organised and work together to ensure Trump does not get a second term which would be disastrous for pretty much most Americans.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes adey67's post
31-01-2017, 05:56 AM
RE: What can we do?
Hi,

There is a positive side to this situation.

Whatever happens, the Republicans own it; just like they own 9/11 and the global banking crash. Of course they will never admit it, but the vote in the presidentials was close, even with unpopular Clinton, so a strong Democrat would have a clear shot next time if Trump f**** up.

The weakness for the Dems is that they can't hound this administration on the budget deficit. If they do, the GOP will cut more social programmes and we all know that no American president could ever limit spending on the military. Budget cutting will never be a vote winner for Democrats.

D.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes Dworkin's post
31-01-2017, 10:32 AM
RE: What can we do?
A Day in the Life of Joe Republican
January 2, 2017
John Gray - Cincinnati, Ohio

Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee.
The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards.

With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication.
His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.
All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.

He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs.
Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo.
His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath.
The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work.
It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day.
He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards.
Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.
If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills.
Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FDIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Joe has to pay his underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.

Joe also forgets that his in addition to his federally subsidized student loans, he attended a state funded university.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive.
His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads.

He arrives at his boyhood home.
His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans.
The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.

He is happy to see his father, who is now retired.
His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show.
The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good.

He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day.

Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."

[Image: 78fbe1_3ff8d7cebee440869ab1318bdeda7af9~mv2.jpg]

Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
[Image: flagstiny%206.gif]
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 10 users Like Chas's post
31-01-2017, 11:04 AM
RE: What can we do?
(31-01-2017 05:56 AM)Dworkin Wrote:  ...
they can't hound this administration on the budget deficit. If they do, the GOP will cut more social programmes and we all know that no American president could ever limit spending on the military. Budget cutting will never be a vote winner for Democrats.
...

WRONG!
(channeling Trump there)

That's exactly what they should do.

Everything for the next two years is entirely in control of the ruling party. The minority needs to be very vocal about this.

Claim the centre ground by shouting about being fiscally conservative. "We said, don't waste money on big government; we didn't say steal from the poor!" Point to the Wall Street parasites who control the policy-machine that leaches the life-blood from #realAmericans.

When the cuts make people bleed they will rise up. Revolts don't happen when people are comfortable.

"Let them eat cake?" #there'snofuckingcakeleft!

Thumbsup

Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 3 users Like DLJ's post
31-01-2017, 11:10 AM
RE: What can we do?
(31-01-2017 10:32 AM)Chas Wrote:  A Day in the Life of Joe Republican
January 2, 2017
John Gray - Cincinnati, Ohio

Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee.
The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards.

With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication.
His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.
All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.

He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs.
Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo.
His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath.
The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work.
It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day.
He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards.
Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.
If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills.
Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FDIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Joe has to pay his underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.

Joe also forgets that his in addition to his federally subsidized student loans, he attended a state funded university.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive.
His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads.

He arrives at his boyhood home.
His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans.
The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.

He is happy to see his father, who is now retired.
His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show.
The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good.

He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day.

Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."

[Image: 78fbe1_3ff8d7cebee440869ab1318bdeda7af9~mv2.jpg]

Chas this is the best post I have seen on TTA ever ever ever, kudos to you sir Bowing
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 2 users Like adey67's post
31-01-2017, 02:47 PM
RE: What can we do?
(31-01-2017 10:32 AM)Chas Wrote:  A Day in the Life of Joe Republican
...

I was cogitating the notion (after that spat with annie123) that technology could sort this one out.

Why not make tax optional?

Those who pay tax get to use public services and public infrastructure for free.

Those who do not pay tax get charged on a pay-as-you-go basis.

If the country already requires one to carry an ID card, it can become like an annual travel card / bus pass etc.

If one pays tax the toll/charge systems recognise and register that a tax-payer has used the service but records no other details.

If one does not pay tax, one can have an itemised monthly bill or use the ID as a direct debit system to charge for their consumption of services ...

Use of roads ... ... ... ... ... $nnn.nn
Use of streetlights ... ... .... $nn.nn
Use of overseas military .... $nnn.nn
Use of dialysis machine ... . $nnn,nnn.nn
Use of justice system ... ... $nnn.nn
Use of fire service ... ... ... $nn,nnn.nn
etc.

Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 3 users Like DLJ's post
11-02-2017, 11:35 AM
RE: What can we do?
(31-01-2017 02:47 PM)DLJ Wrote:  
(31-01-2017 10:32 AM)Chas Wrote:  A Day in the Life of Joe Republican
...

I was cogitating the notion (after that spat with annie123) that technology could sort this one out.

Why not make tax optional?

Those who pay tax get to use public services and public infrastructure for free.

Those who do not pay tax get charged on a pay-as-you-go basis.

If the country already requires one to carry an ID card, it can become like an annual travel card / bus pass etc.

If one pays tax the toll/charge systems recognise and register that a tax-payer has used the service but records no other details.

If one does not pay tax, one can have an itemised monthly bill or use the ID as a direct debit system to charge for their consumption of services ...

Use of roads ... ... ... ... ... $nnn.nn
Use of streetlights ... ... .... $nn.nn
Use of overseas military .... $nnn.nn
Use of dialysis machine ... . $nnn,nnn.nn
Use of justice system ... ... $nnn.nn
Use of fire service ... ... ... $nn,nnn.nn
etc.

That's an interesting idea.

[Image: dobie.png]Science is the process we've designed to be responsible for generating our best guess as to what the fuck is going on. Girly Man
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes Dom's post
Post Reply
Forum Jump: