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06-08-2014, 10:03 PM
What do you make of these "Atheist converts to Christianity" claims
something like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTMuTDIMvXU

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06-08-2014, 10:05 PM
RE: What do you make of these "Atheist converts to Christianity" claims
I ignore them. I don't need a lot of people to agree with me to know I am right.
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06-08-2014, 10:44 PM
RE: What do you make of these "Atheist converts to Christianity" claims
(06-08-2014 10:03 PM)donlee600 Wrote:  something like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTMuTDIMvXU

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We've had people here who said they were atheist and 'saw the light'.

I took years to deconvert. I read about all different religions and dabbled in mystism. I didn't want to be atheist. Yet, here I am.

I find it difficult how anyone who really looked at all the evidence with any sort objectivity, could go from atheist to theist.

I think that those who have or either full of shit or never bothered to look passed their own front door.

Plus they recieve all those accolades from their fellow flock. And repeat all misconceptions about why people are atheist -- since they never really were one, how could they understand it?

I think that's a prime reason why people ask me, "why do you hate god?" or "how can you be angry with something you don't believe in?"

I have to explain time and again I do not hate nor am I angry with god. I am a bit upset with his followers.


But as if to knock me down, reality came around
And without so much as a mere touch, cut me into little pieces

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06-08-2014, 11:28 PM
RE: What do you make of these "Atheist converts to Christianity" claims
I fail to understand how a person can honestly look at religion through atheist eyes, then go back and bury their head in the same sand pile.

I think it's just a scam.
How can anyone know that some unknown person claiming to have been an atheist turned theist ever questioned religion in the first place? Outright lying is definitely not beneath them.
It's more likely to me that they're trying to use atheists own arguments against them.
Many atheists were believers who learned the truth and abandoned religion, so they claim the same in reverse. Atheism back to theism.
I saw the light! It's a miracle!

Also...
It reminds me of the preacher (I don't remember his name) who proclaimed he was going to be atheist for a year.
Pretending and going through the motions while still having faith in god. That is not the same and we all know that.

I only watched about a minute of the video, but I wouldn't be surprised if their was a book sale at the end.
Hell, who's to say this woman isn't an atheist trying to make a buck off of religion.
It's not like she'll go to hell for it right? Big Grin
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06-08-2014, 11:33 PM
RE: What do you make of these "Atheist converts to Christianity" claims
We wouldn't want to be guilty of committing the 'no true scotsman' fallacy. Lots of people leave the faith. Some of them go back. They have their reasons.

Doesn't trouble me in the slightest.
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06-08-2014, 11:38 PM
RE: What do you make of these "Atheist converts to Christianity" claims
Yea I was aware of the scotsman while I was typing it.
I wasn't saying she wasn't a true atheist, like she didn't do it right, only that she may be lying about the whole thing from the get-go.
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07-08-2014, 01:45 AM
RE: What do you make of these "Atheist converts to Christianity" claims
I've known atheists who converted. One was chasing a girl who went to a Baptist church, so the more he chased after her, the more he subjugated his intellect (and he was a school principal).

I had this very discussion with a commercial airline pilot I met last weekend, who converted as an adult. She claimed that she felt something was missing, and went searching for answers. I said it was too bad you met a Christian, and not a Buddhist, because the Buddhist would have told you that life is empty and meaningless, and answered for you that burning need to find meaning. C'est la vie.

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07-08-2014, 03:54 AM
RE: What do you make of these "Atheist converts to Christianity" claims
Holly Ordway:
I was an Atheist because :
I had no compelling reason to believe it was true, this is not Atheism its ignorance ism AKA Agnosticism.

I am now a Christian because :
Without out Christ the world is awful and meaningless and there is
no reason to cherish life
no reason to protect the weak
no reason to be kind to others

I hate to break it to the theists using this "person" as their Atheist to Theist spokes person, but she is just a horrible cunt and the Christians are welcome the piece of human excrement.

Theism is to believe what other people claim, Atheism is to ask "why should I".
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07-08-2014, 04:26 AM
RE: What do you make of these "Atheist converts to Christianity" claims
Human mind is total fuck up. Who's to say people can't switch?

Like Michael_Tadlock says, who gives a damn? Agreement != truth.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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07-08-2014, 04:41 AM
RE: What do you make of these "Atheist converts to Christianity" claims
(06-08-2014 10:03 PM)donlee600 Wrote:  something like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTMuTDIMvXU

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Jeremy Walker posted this video. My response was that both she and Jennifer Fulwiler were driven by an emotional need to believe rather arriving at the decision by logical deduction (17.30 - 18.00 in the above video).

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...#pid578215
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