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03-01-2015, 12:27 PM
RE: What do you think about man-made global warming?
Looking at the issue as an agnostic, I'd have to admit that I don't see either side of the debate as being inarguably right. But I "think" global warming exists, and that it is at least in part due to our actions. I'm not worried about it, though. Just another one of the millions of things that could potentially kill us all.

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03-01-2015, 02:33 PM
RE: What do you think about man-made global warming?
The overwhelming consensus amongst qualified scientists is that global warming is largely the result of anthropogenic CO2 emissions. Of the 928 peer-reviewed papers published between 1993 and 2003 with the keyword "climate change", 75% explicitly or implicitly accepted the consensus view that the evidence for human modification of climate is compelling. Not one single peer-reviewed paper rejected that position [Oreskes, 2004].

One climate myth that you may have heard is that volcanoes emit more CO2 than humans do. Ironically, I heard this one from a fellow geologist. The data indicate that humans emit 126 times as much CO2 as volcanic activity. To put that into perspective, annual anthropogenic emissions of CO2 exceed what would be expected from the eruption of a supervolcano.

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03-01-2015, 03:31 PM
RE: What do you think about man-made global warming?
(03-01-2015 03:01 AM)LaramieHirsch Wrote:  What do folks here at TTA think about man-made global warming?

Does the majority think that it is real? That it is fake? Or, does this forum have a mix of the two?

I don't need to think...there's scientific evidence. Someone smarter than me has done the thinking.

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03-01-2015, 03:44 PM
RE: What do you think about man-made global warming?
"There's nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine! The people are fucked..."

-George Carlin

Seriously though, I voted "yes."

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03-01-2015, 08:50 PM
RE: What do you think about man-made global warming?
(03-01-2015 07:15 AM)Hafnof Wrote:  Yes, it's real.
Yes, we're causing it.
Yes, it can be effectively and cheaply dealt with by putting a price on emissions.
Yes, it may already be to late to stop a large effect that causes major problems for our species.

And...

Yes, the idiot science deniers need to accept this as a fact, get the hell out of the way or stfu.

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03-01-2015, 08:57 PM
RE: What do you think about man-made global warming?
I am not sure about the wording of the poll question.

The earth's climate has been changing for as long as it's been in existence. Has man had some influence on climate changes...yeah, I would think so. We do things that wouldn't necessarily happen if we weren't here. But 'man-made' doesn't seem accurate.

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07-01-2015, 12:57 AM
RE: What do you think about man-made global warming?
Here's what I think about "Man-Made Global Warming..."

I think you can't put 7 billion members of a species on a tiny planet and let them pump their environment full of demonstrably-environment-altering pollutants and expect it to not have some sort of effect. Anyone who thinks otherwise watches Fox News and isn't worth the precious oxygen they consume on a daily basis.

However, it doesn't really matter what I think. What matters is what the evidence shows, and the evidence shows that yes, we've fucked this place up. A lot.

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07-01-2015, 01:02 AM
RE: What do you think about man-made global warming?
(03-01-2015 09:31 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(03-01-2015 04:06 AM)Stuffed_Assumption_Meringue Wrote:  My understanding is that the plurality of relevant experts say that observed global warming is being contributed to by our activities. I also understand that the planet is moving closer to the sun and that is also heating the biosphere but that this is a minority opinion.

Probably a single-digit minority. Do you have a credible reference?

Not that I've since been able to find. Go "believing-things-you-see-on-Bullshit!-without-looking-further-into-it."

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07-01-2015, 10:10 AM
RE: What do you think about man-made global warming?
First of all, I appreciate the addition of man-made in your question.

Over the holidays, I overheard a family member saying she believed that humans will prevent the next ice age, and that this was a big concern of hers. I immediately assumed she was playing around with another skeptic (there were two of us), who asked if she really believed that humans could prevent an ice age. She was not joking; she was serious. And she is a member of the modern “scientific” community.

I would have asked her why prevention of the next ice age was a bad thing. Maybe she believes that the entire planet will become equator-like with no possibility of a cool down. I did not walk over to find out.

For me, she is like the young earth creationist, where most believers in human warming are like the old earth creationist.

There is little, if anything, that can be said to bring about a conversion to reason, logic or rational thought on the part of these creationists or carbon dioxide fear mongers.
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07-01-2015, 11:45 AM
RE: What do you think about man-made global warming?
(07-01-2015 10:10 AM)Walter Wrote:  And she is a member of the modern “scientific” community.

Please do not read this comment the wrong way, but just 'being of the scientific community' isn't quite right/the done thing. Certainly, give your relative quite a lot of attention and respect for when they are speaking about things within their chosen field of study.

For all other times, their thoughts and ideas are pretty much as 'correct' as the next persons. (Though, to be fair, staid relative's education level would seem to give them a potentially broader base of knowledge with which to express opinions)

(07-01-2015 10:10 AM)Walter Wrote:  For me, she is like the young earth creationist, where most believers in human warming are like the old earth creationist.

A quaint and cute analogy... However it's very wrong and rather bad. Creationism is nothing to do with science (There's lots of posts on the boards about the subject)

The scientific study of the Earth and its climate is science.

(07-01-2015 10:10 AM)Walter Wrote:  There is little, if anything, that can be said to bring about a conversion to reason, logic or rational thought on the part of these creationists or...

This is sadly true.

(07-01-2015 10:10 AM)Walter Wrote:  ... Carbon dioxide fear mongers.

Citation needed that those who speak of climate change are 'just' being fear mongers and are not giving good advice based on their scientific study?


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