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13-10-2012, 08:11 PM
What does neoliberal Democrat mean?
I took a political test just out of curiosity. It said that I'm a neoliberal Democrat. I don't understand it. Can someone explain it?
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13-10-2012, 10:22 PM
RE: What does neoliberal Democrat mean?
Basically you're a right wing libertarian.

You believe in free markets etc... but also liberal social issues like gays should be allowed to marry etc...
Basically, socially you are a Democrat but economically you are Republican.

Welcome to the club.

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13-10-2012, 10:42 PM
RE: What does neoliberal Democrat mean?
neo = new
liber = free
al (suffix) = relating to, process of, or an action
demo = pertaining to people or society
crat = supporter of a specific type of government

Put together, it means no matter how you vote, you will always be shouted down by people with more money and louder voices.

Get used to it.

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13-10-2012, 10:53 PM
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cool thanks Smile makes sense.
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14-10-2012, 02:01 PM
RE: What does neoliberal Democrat mean?
(13-10-2012 10:22 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Basically you're a right wing libertarian.

You believe in free markets etc... but also liberal social issues like gays should be allowed to marry etc...
Basically, socially you are a Democrat but economically you are Republican.

Welcome to the club.

So, you want gay people to marry (social), but also want the church to be able to prevent gay people from marrying (private institutions)?

The hell?
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14-10-2012, 03:18 PM
RE: What does neoliberal Democrat mean?
Neoliberal tends to refers to freedoms being extended to economics/markets. Democrat would refer to government, or element of government, that's ruled by the people and majority.

Add that together you get a someone who favors a country ran on some form of democratic principles, but that doesn't interfere much, if at all, with capitalism, free markets and trade.

It doesn't really say much about social issues, as far as authority, so I wouldn't call it libertarianism. Libertarianism is close to anarchism, it just deals with a view toward government and authority. That could lead to something similar to economic liberalism and social equality, but for a different reason. A liberal believes that people actually deserve equality and to have certain rights and freedoms and/or protection of certain rights and freedoms, and when applied to economics (neoliberalism), would believe that free markets are the way to go; a libertarian, on the other hand, regardless of the way they feel personally, just don't think that a government, or any other authority, has the right to dictate what people should, shouldn't, can, or can't do.

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15-10-2012, 12:33 AM
RE: What does neoliberal Democrat mean?
(14-10-2012 02:01 PM)poolboyg88 Wrote:  
(13-10-2012 10:22 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Basically you're a right wing libertarian.

You believe in free markets etc... but also liberal social issues like gays should be allowed to marry etc...
Basically, socially you are a Democrat but economically you are Republican.

Welcome to the club.

So, you want gay people to marry (social), but also want the church to be able to prevent gay people from marrying (private institutions)?

The hell?

No.
There are two types of political issues; Social and Economical.
Within each category you have labels. For social it's liberal and conservatism. For economical issues it's a little more complex, from laissez-faire which would be complete free market to strictly state-controlled government, with the former being politically right (same spectrum as social conservatism) and the later being politically left (same as socially left).

So someone who is socially liberal favors gays rights, is often pro-choice etc.. where as someone who is conservative socially opposes gay marriage, is pro-life etc..

Economically someone who favors a free market/private market etc.. is seen as economically conservative, where as someone who favors state controlled economy is seen as economically liberal. Think of it like this; On the far right you have capitalism. On the far left you have communism. So an example issue would be Obamacare. Someone who is economically liberal would be in favor because it benefits the majority etc.. Nanny state. Where as someone who is economically right would oppose it because they believe that it's every man for himself.

So someone who is a Right Wing Libertarian is socially liberal, but seen as a conservative when it comes to economical issues.


The good thing about being a right wing libertarian is that you can change your vote depending on what you think is needed more. So if you want social issues past you would vote for the Democrats, and then when you feel the right social issues have been achieved you can swing your vote towards the Republicans and let them sort out the economy.

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15-10-2012, 12:40 AM
RE: What does neoliberal Democrat mean?
a neo-liberal is a more radical capitalistic approach than before the fall of the Soviet Union. Neo-Liberalism had it's hayday when people thought that capitalist fairies would sprinkle fairy dust all over the economy and everything would be good after 1990. But now we know that isn't the case at all.

Basically a neo-liberal is a capitalist douche wad that has a gay friend a black highschool buddy that he calls his friend...so that makes him somehow the grand puba of caring about his fellow human, while he lives off the economic raping of billions of other people in third world counties. These people are usually referred to as americans.

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15-10-2012, 06:20 AM
Re: What does neoliberal Democrat mean?
It appears that someone is mad. I know this, bc I've seen other people who are mad.
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15-10-2012, 11:47 AM
RE: What does neoliberal Democrat mean?
(15-10-2012 12:33 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  The good thing about being a right wing libertarian is that you can change your vote depending on what you think is needed more. So if you want social issues past you would vote for the Democrats, and then when you feel the right social issues have been achieved you can swing your vote towards the Republicans and let them sort out the economy.

I just have to say, if a person was really a right-wing libertarian, you definitely wouldn't vote for either Republicans or Democrats. Unless of course you were willing to go completely against your own political ideology, toward a separate end.

There is a Libertarian party, but in a two-party dominated country, it definitely wouldn't be seen as a "good thing" voting Republican or Democrat.

Both parties really aren't libertarian, and depending on how far to the right you were economically, you might fit in a little, but in a lot of cases, it would be likely you wouldn't fit in with either party economically.

Libertarian really doesn't say anything about how you stand on social issues, other than the libertarian position on government, which is less of a, to no, role, so that would put you at odds with Democrats and Republicans, regardless of where you actually did stand on social issues, since both parties hold positions about how a government does have a role in certain social issues.

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