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24-10-2016, 07:12 AM
RE: What does the word ‘god’ refer to?
(24-10-2016 06:12 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(24-10-2016 05:33 AM)Dark Wanderer Wrote:  Do you ever get tired of being a passive aggressive cunt? I would think that would get tiresome after a while. Do you believe that you get a free pass to be an asshat from your god buddy if you avoid being outright aggressive and using naughty words? Or is he just not capable of reading between the lines?


Yahweh? Orthodox Jews, Christians, and Muslim have many ways of out-smarting their god. Ultra Orthodox Jews have an entire cottage industry of kosher home appliances and devices that operate on timers, so that they can either work themselves or remain off on the Sabbath. Banks offer special non-interest bearing loans for Muslims, that still have interest (as indicated by the promissory note), but jumps through a few creative loopholes to make it appear as if they're not really paying interest (when they totally are, just under a different name). For centuries Christians have participated in the 'poophole loophole', engaging in anal sex in an effort to save female 'virginity' for their marriage night. Mormons take it a step further, engaging in 'soaking'; the act of just inserting the penis into the vagina but then not moving it, as if god is a T-Rex with vision based movement.

Their god, if he exists, is a dumb motherfucker; or at least, a ton of his fan-club are arrogant and/or stupid enough to think they can get one over the creator of the universe. I honestly don't know which is funnier, or more pathetic.

This is the part that always irritates me, up to this day!

Is their god omniscient? If so, he knows everything they think, every-thing. So whats the point in trying to *cheat* on an omniscient being? By sticking to the letter of his commands and not the intentions? Hes fucking omniscient, so he knows when they are insincere.
As you said, they must think hes rather stupid than omniscient, and in case he exists and senses their cheats, well....let me put it this way: Id rather value someone honestly refusing to follow my commands than someone trying to insult my (omniscient!) intellect by trying to cheat me!

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24-10-2016, 07:22 AM
RE: What does the word ‘god’ refer to?
(24-10-2016 05:02 AM)KerimF Wrote:  
(24-10-2016 01:31 AM)Deesse23 Wrote:  QFT Bowing Worship Slaves

No one can blame me anytime I reply smart people as you are.
But it is real surprising that smart people, as you are, intentionally keep following persons, as I, who intentionally keep themselves stupid Tongue
But nothing can be done about this. This is life since always.

Also on our days, it became clear that the believers/followers of the modern bible also see themselves as the 'chosen people', but of the modern god instead whose main idols are Freedom, Democracy and Peace. These faithful followers have to believe the powerful/rich representatives of this imaginary god and its great modern idols... and to also support their close servants (playing religious or political roles). They dream imposing their idols on all mankind (starting from saving Syrians by the hands of the CIA Qaeda).

Anyway, I am glad that some of these believers here were able to live pleasant times, as you do, in the presence of an infidel... as I, Kerim Thumbsup

How many posts ago did i tell you that i am not in the least interested anymore in your crazy delusions? I am only interested in how you came to be so ignorant as you are.

This forum is an archaeological museum of crazy/ignorant people (sometimes). I am a kind of visitor interested in archaeology and the exhibits. You are one of them. It would be pointless for me to discuss archeology with a rock. I however am taking the freedom to discuss the rock with other visitors and the owners of the museum. I dont care what opinion the rock has of me. So please kindly take all your passive agressive arrogance and apply it to whom it concerns.

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24-10-2016, 07:58 AM
RE: What does the word ‘god’ refer to?
(24-10-2016 06:57 AM)Dark Wanderer Wrote:  
(24-10-2016 06:45 AM)KerimF Wrote:  First, please also ask yourself:
Do I, 'Dark Wanderer', ever get tired of being an aggressive hero?

Second, I am afraid you have to please your ruling system and believe all fairy tales it approves as the one about the idiots who planned the Hollywood 9/11 attacks against themselves and to give more rights and incomes to their so-called enemies; the men on power of their innocent victims.

Third, I personally have no god to please or obey. You surprise me for not knowing this about me from all the posts I wrote.
It seems you are expert in reading between lines only Tongue

Yes, which is why I'm not always aggressive. However, every post that I see of yours is always dripping with passive aggressive bullshit. Not to mention 9/11 conspiracy drivel. Thanks for more of that, by the way. (see? I can be passive too). So you're an atheist then, eh?

Wow, so I should learn now how to change myself, as you did, and be aggressive sometimes Wink

About the gods you heard of, it seems they all need to be pleased and obeyed.
But since I am rather a scientist I can't see whoever forced me (and all my ancestors before me) to exist in this time/space realm (we call life) by giving me a well-designed complex system (a human living flesh) could need anything from me (or from any other creatures).

As you notice, I can't see myself as a theist since I can't accept ideas for my set of knowledge, based on faith (a prerequisite for a theist by definition).
Also I can't see myself an atheist because I can't believe I was made from nothing while any of the various electronic boards I designed, built and sold couldn't exist if I don't exist in the first place.

But at the same time, not every scientist needs looking for the Will/Power which forced him to exit (the way he is), as I did. In this case, he better lives as an atheist.

But let us not forget that theism (by its different gods, religions and sects) helps in dividing people. Therefore, theism is supported always by the high class to better control their divided masses. Of course, there are other means to divide people around the world, but the man-made gods are the best.

Now, I like you think with me to find a name (as theist, atheist, agnostic... etc. ) for a person who discovered that the Will/Power that created him has no rules to be imposed on him (or on anyone else). Please note, I don't ask you to believe in the existence of any god/creator, just to find me a name of this case (which is likely an imaginary one to almost all people in the world). Thank you in advance.

Facts that don't need evidences:
Sheep for milk live in peace because it is the will of their rich owners.
Dogs obeying rich masters deserve much better food and shelters than free dogs do.
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24-10-2016, 08:01 AM
RE: What does the word ‘god’ refer to?
(24-10-2016 07:58 AM)KerimF Wrote:  Also I can't see myself an atheist because I can't believe I was made from nothing while any of the various electronic boards I designed, built and sold couldn't exist if I don't exist in the first place.
No claims you were made from "nothing" except you.

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24-10-2016, 08:24 AM
RE: What does the word ‘god’ refer to?
(24-10-2016 07:12 AM)Deesse23 Wrote:  
(24-10-2016 06:12 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Yahweh? Orthodox Jews, Christians, and Muslim have many ways of out-smarting their god. Ultra Orthodox Jews have an entire cottage industry of kosher home appliances and devices that operate on timers, so that they can either work themselves or remain off on the Sabbath. Banks offer special non-interest bearing loans for Muslims, that still have interest (as indicated by the promissory note), but jumps through a few creative loopholes to make it appear as if they're not really paying interest (when they totally are, just under a different name). For centuries Christians have participated in the 'poophole loophole', engaging in anal sex in an effort to save female 'virginity' for their marriage night. Mormons take it a step further, engaging in 'soaking'; the act of just inserting the penis into the vagina but then not moving it, as if god is a T-Rex with vision based movement.

Their god, if he exists, is a dumb motherfucker; or at least, a ton of his fan-club are arrogant and/or stupid enough to think they can get one over the creator of the universe. I honestly don't know which is funnier, or more pathetic.

This is the part that always irritates me, up to this day!

Is their god omniscient? If so, he knows everything they think, every-thing. So whats the point in trying to *cheat* on an omniscient being? By sticking to the letter of his commands and not the intentions? Hes fucking omniscient, so he knows when they are insincere.
As you said, they must think hes rather stupid than omniscient, and in case he exists and senses their cheats, well....let me put it this way: Id rather value someone honestly refusing to follow my commands than someone trying to insult my (omniscient!) intellect by trying to cheat me!

Although you are not addressing me, I like adding that I agree with you on this.

I bet you didn't expect me saying this because you simply didn't have the time to read my posts related to the man-made gods in the least; and how these gods should have ruling systems as men on earth have.

On the other hand, you give me the impression always that your mind has to live in a black & white realm only, in which there is no place for grey and colours. Therefore, if someone thinks exactly as you do he is in the white side, otherwise his place should be in the black one. This reminds me the thinking of the formal theists Big Grin

Facts that don't need evidences:
Sheep for milk live in peace because it is the will of their rich owners.
Dogs obeying rich masters deserve much better food and shelters than free dogs do.
Whoever has ears will hear.
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24-10-2016, 08:30 AM
RE: What does the word ‘god’ refer to?
(24-10-2016 08:01 AM)LostLocke Wrote:  
(24-10-2016 07:58 AM)KerimF Wrote:  Also I can't see myself an atheist because I can't believe I was made from nothing while any of the various electronic boards I designed, built and sold couldn't exist if I don't exist in the first place.
No claims you were made from "nothing" except you.

Sorry, I couldn't get well what you liked telling me.

It seems I had to use a better word than 'nothing'.
Could you help? Thank you.

Facts that don't need evidences:
Sheep for milk live in peace because it is the will of their rich owners.
Dogs obeying rich masters deserve much better food and shelters than free dogs do.
Whoever has ears will hear.
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24-10-2016, 09:18 AM
RE: What does the word ‘god’ refer to?
(24-10-2016 07:58 AM)KerimF Wrote:  
(24-10-2016 06:57 AM)Dark Wanderer Wrote:  Yes, which is why I'm not always aggressive. However, every post that I see of yours is always dripping with passive aggressive bullshit. Not to mention 9/11 conspiracy drivel. Thanks for more of that, by the way. (see? I can be passive too). So you're an atheist then, eh?

Wow, so I should learn now how to change myself, as you did, and be aggressive sometimes Wink

About the gods you heard of, it seems they all need to be pleased and obeyed.
But since I am rather a scientist I can't see whoever forced me (and all my ancestors before me) to exist in this time/space realm (we call life) by giving me a well-designed complex system (a human living flesh) could need anything from me (or from any other creatures).

As you notice, I can't see myself as a theist since I can't accept ideas for my set of knowledge, based on faith (a prerequisite for a theist by definition).
Also I can't see myself an atheist because I can't believe I was made from nothing while any of the various electronic boards I designed, built and sold couldn't exist if I don't exist in the first place.

But at the same time, not every scientist needs looking for the Will/Power which forced him to exit (the way he is), as I did. In this case, he better lives as an atheist.

But let us not forget that theism (by its different gods, religions and sects) helps in dividing people. Therefore, theism is supported always by the high class to better control their divided masses. Of course, there are other means to divide people around the world, but the man-made gods are the best.

Now, I like you think with me to find a name (as theist, atheist, agnostic... etc. ) for a person who discovered that the Will/Power that created him has no rules to be imposed on him (or on anyone else). Please note, I don't ask you to believe in the existence of any god/creator, just to find me a name of this case (which is likely an imaginary one to almost all people in the world). Thank you in advance.

I think you should be aggressive some time, yes. It would be better than your usual dishonest shit, and you might actually enjoy it. As for that heaping helping of word salad you just tossed... sorry i asked
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24-10-2016, 09:44 AM
RE: What does the word ‘god’ refer to?
(24-10-2016 09:18 AM)Dark Wanderer Wrote:  
(24-10-2016 07:58 AM)KerimF Wrote:  Wow, so I should learn now how to change myself, as you did, and be aggressive sometimes Wink

About the gods you heard of, it seems they all need to be pleased and obeyed.
But since I am rather a scientist I can't see whoever forced me (and all my ancestors before me) to exist in this time/space realm (we call life) by giving me a well-designed complex system (a human living flesh) could need anything from me (or from any other creatures).

As you notice, I can't see myself as a theist since I can't accept ideas for my set of knowledge, based on faith (a prerequisite for a theist by definition).
Also I can't see myself an atheist because I can't believe I was made from nothing while any of the various electronic boards I designed, built and sold couldn't exist if I don't exist in the first place.

But at the same time, not every scientist needs looking for the Will/Power which forced him to exit (the way he is), as I did. In this case, he better lives as an atheist.

But let us not forget that theism (by its different gods, religions and sects) helps in dividing people. Therefore, theism is supported always by the high class to better control their divided masses. Of course, there are other means to divide people around the world, but the man-made gods are the best.

Now, I like you think with me to find a name (as theist, atheist, agnostic... etc. ) for a person who discovered that the Will/Power that created him has no rules to be imposed on him (or on anyone else). Please note, I don't ask you to believe in the existence of any god/creator, just to find me a name of this case (which is likely an imaginary one to almost all people in the world). Thank you in advance.

I think you should be aggressive some time, yes. It would be better than your usual dishonest shit, and you might actually enjoy it. As for that heaping helping of word salad you just tossed... sorry i asked

You may not believe me. I met many people who 'do' enjoy their time... anytime they have the opportunity to be aggressive; otherwise they feel real ashamed of themselves for not having enough strength to be so.

But it happens that the reverse of this attitude applies on me. In the contrary, I do enjoy being immune against any aggressive action on me (even if it aims the death of my body). So it is almost impossible for anyone to control my reaction as if I am a mere survival being. Naturally, I feel real ashamed of myself if someone succeeds in doing it because, in this case, I would see myself as a TV set, for example, which could be controlled by an RCU... remotely and anytime.

Perhaps now, you start getting why I talk about 'relative' realities and not just 'the absolute' reality Wink

Facts that don't need evidences:
Sheep for milk live in peace because it is the will of their rich owners.
Dogs obeying rich masters deserve much better food and shelters than free dogs do.
Whoever has ears will hear.
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24-10-2016, 07:19 PM
RE: What does the word ‘god’ refer to?
(24-10-2016 05:02 AM)KerimF Wrote:  But it is real surprising that smart people, as you are, intentionally keep following persons, as I, who intentionally keep themselves stupid Tongue
First off no one is following you. YOU came to US to spout your nonsense, not the other way around. The reason we keep trying to correct your dishonest shit is because we want you to stop being so stupid.

(24-10-2016 05:02 AM)KerimF Wrote:  But nothing can be done about this. This is life since always.
Utter bullshit. The only thing stopping you from learning is you. Nothing can be done about it is the motto of a lazy coward. Something CAN be done about and a good start would be you actually reading what is written to you and not responding with passive-aggressive bullshit and attempts to evade criticism.

(24-10-2016 05:02 AM)KerimF Wrote:  Also on our days, it became clear that the believers/followers of the modern bible also see themselves as the 'chosen people', but of the modern god instead whose main idols are Freedom, Democracy and Peace.
Kerim. SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP. This has utterly nothing to do with your claims about your god and our insistence that you demonstrate you claims.
(24-10-2016 05:02 AM)KerimF Wrote:  Anyway, I am glad that some of these believers here were able to live pleasant times, as you do, in the presence of an infidel... as I, Kerim Thumbsup
Seriously, shut the fuck up unless you are going to actually address what people say.

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24-10-2016, 07:24 PM
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Oh and I asked you to provide the source for your claim that "Clinton declared openly that America will help now the fighters of ISIS to find safe ways to move from Mosel city (Iraq) to Syria."

Where did you hear this or are you lying?

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