What if Earth was one big city?
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22-07-2016, 10:55 AM
RE: What if Earth was one big city?
Or we could just evolve away from eating altogether and have ports installed to replace our digestive systems and just get nutrient injections instead.

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22-07-2016, 11:00 AM (This post was last modified: 22-07-2016 11:04 AM by GenesisNemesis.)
RE: What if Earth was one big city?
(22-07-2016 10:55 AM)yakherder Wrote:  Or we could just evolve away from eating altogether and have ports installed to replace our digestive systems and just get nutrient injections instead.

Only if that becomes cheap and widely available, and people get comfortable with the idea of it. Right now you have people who are completely unwilling to stop eating meat, for example, even to the point where it becomes a source of pride for them that they eat meat.

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22-07-2016, 11:04 AM
RE: What if Earth was one big city?
(22-07-2016 09:59 AM)yakherder Wrote:  
(22-07-2016 09:38 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  Evolution doesn't involve either of those things.

Not traditionally, since they haven't ever been available before. But In a world where they do become permanently available our bodies will indeed adapt to the change over time.

If, for example, it eventually becomes standard for babies to be developed out of the womb and with intentional genetic manipulation, and given the fact that the nature of the female reproductive system has itself been a significant influence on certain aspects of our evolutionary path, that and other technologies will make viable the survivability of potentially advantageous mutations and the obsoletion of others.

Then there's cultural evolution which tends to occur quite rapidly. If, for example, our tendencies as hypersexual mammals can be controlled, either through genetic manipulation or the availability of superior birth control or stimulated options, in conjunction with a decreased demand and in fact eventual obsoletion of conventional pregnancy, we will adapt to that change and the way we adapt will influence our evolutionary path.

You've redefined "evolution"? Gasp
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22-07-2016, 11:06 AM
RE: What if Earth was one big city?
(22-07-2016 11:04 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  
(22-07-2016 09:59 AM)yakherder Wrote:  Not traditionally, since they haven't ever been available before. But In a world where they do become permanently available our bodies will indeed adapt to the change over time.

If, for example, it eventually becomes standard for babies to be developed out of the womb and with intentional genetic manipulation, and given the fact that the nature of the female reproductive system has itself been a significant influence on certain aspects of our evolutionary path, that and other technologies will make viable the survivability of potentially advantageous mutations and the obsoletion of others.

Then there's cultural evolution which tends to occur quite rapidly. If, for example, our tendencies as hypersexual mammals can be controlled, either through genetic manipulation or the availability of superior birth control or stimulated options, in conjunction with a decreased demand and in fact eventual obsoletion of conventional pregnancy, we will adapt to that change and the way we adapt will influence our evolutionary path.

You've redefined "evolution"? Gasp

In what way? The catalyst for evolution may be different, but the process by which it occurs remains the same.

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22-07-2016, 01:16 PM
RE: What if Earth was one big city?
sounds like a hive world in Warhammer 40K. so i would say that it would suck badly.
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22-07-2016, 05:40 PM
RE: What if Earth was one big city?
Ok let me rephrase, not entire 1 big city but more grown to become one big city so there would still be industrial areas, housing areas all that sort of stuff so there'd still be forests for timber, water for drinking. It'd just be all.. controlled for lack of better word.

Also, it's possible we could turn the moon into one big farm or Mars. Who knows.

And regarding the population leveling out, sure at this rate. But the population doesn't entirely work like that because of changing technology.
The population EXPLODED when we could cultivate plants instead of hunting and gathering. The population exploded when we developed communities and society and could move beyond living to survive. Hell, the population exploded in the 60's with the introduction of super plants being all super and shit.

It'd be foolish to think we couldn't keep reducing the amount of land required to feed the population. Hell, we have hydroponics we don't even need the sun anymore.

Really people this is why I don't make threads like this often. "don't like it" is usually all the response I get.
Put a bit of effort into eh.
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22-07-2016, 05:41 PM
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(22-07-2016 06:43 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(22-07-2016 06:39 AM)Dom Wrote:  What a nightmare....

You say that, but humans have 'evolved' to live in houses and not in caves.
So we could 'evolve' (or devolve depending on your outlook) again to not live constantly surrounded by nature. People would get used to it over time.

YOu can get used to anything, even hanging. After a short while they don't kick and scream or anything, they just hang there!
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22-07-2016, 05:43 PM
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(22-07-2016 10:38 AM)Chas Wrote:  Yabut, where would our food come from? Consider

Aquaponics, hydroponics, and roof top gardens!
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22-07-2016, 05:47 PM
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(22-07-2016 05:40 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Ok let me rephrase, not entire 1 big city but more grown to become one big city so there would still be industrial areas, housing areas all that sort of stuff so there'd still be forests for timber, water for drinking. It'd just be all.. controlled for lack of better word.

Also, it's possible we could turn the moon into one big farm or Mars. Who knows.

And regarding the population leveling out, sure at this rate. But the population doesn't entirely work like that because of changing technology.
The population EXPLODED when we could cultivate plants instead of hunting and gathering. The population exploded when we developed communities and society and could move beyond living to survive. Hell, the population exploded in the 60's with the introduction of super plants being all super and shit.

It'd be foolish to think we couldn't keep reducing the amount of land required to feed the population. Hell, we have hydroponics we don't even need the sun anymore.

Really people this is why I don't make threads like this often. "don't like it" is usually all the response I get.
Put a bit of effort into eh.

The difference isn't so much in the number of people we could theoretically support, but in the incentive for people to want to invest the time to raise them. On a farm, a kid is another source of labour starting as early as 4. In modern industrialized society, a kid is a 20 to 30 year investment that may ultimately just tell you to fuck off and go do their own thing rather than sticking around as a return on that investment.

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22-07-2016, 05:51 PM
RE: What if Earth was one big city?
(22-07-2016 05:40 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Ok let me rephrase, not entire 1 big city but more grown to become one big city so there would still be industrial areas, housing areas all that sort of stuff so there'd still be forests for timber, water for drinking. It'd just be all.. controlled for lack of better word.

Also, it's possible we could turn the moon into one big farm or Mars. Who knows.

And regarding the population leveling out, sure at this rate. But the population doesn't entirely work like that because of changing technology.
The population EXPLODED when we could cultivate plants instead of hunting and gathering. The population exploded when we developed communities and society and could move beyond living to survive. Hell, the population exploded in the 60's with the introduction of super plants being all super and shit.

It'd be foolish to think we couldn't keep reducing the amount of land required to feed the population. Hell, we have hydroponics we don't even need the sun anymore.

Really people this is why I don't make threads like this often. "don't like it" is usually all the response I get.
Put a bit of effort into eh.

There was quite a subgenre of science fiction with that self same theme in the 70's. Larry Niven was one if I remember right. Bob Waldorf?
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