What if your own children became religious?
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12-03-2014, 01:54 PM
RE: What if your own children became religious?
(12-03-2014 01:51 PM)Stark Raving Wrote:  
(12-03-2014 01:48 PM)Atothetheist Wrote:  17 you say?

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12-03-2014, 01:56 PM
RE: What if your own children became religious?
(12-03-2014 11:44 AM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  How would you react?
Children are very empirical. They won't be deeply religious, unless they have a hell of a reason for it, literally.

"There is no “Church of Gravity,” which drags young children into Sunday
school to repeat to them over and over that gravity exists, that gravity is
real, that gravity has an effect on matter – and that the children will be
sent to hell for disbelieving in gravity. Similarly, there are no “Temples of
the Hot Stoves” which strive over and over to inculcate the belief in
children that a hot stove will burn them if they touch it.
The reason for this, of course, is that children have direct empirical
perceptions of gravity and heat – the cause-and-effect is very immediate,
very testable, very powerful, perfectly consistent,and so perfectly real."
MOLYNEUX, Stefan, Real Time Relationships: The Logic of Love, p. 128, 2008
(sorry, I'm a student, I am programmed to quote or fail)

I think that Dale McGowan also describes how his children changed religions every couple of days when they were exploring them. He didn't make a big deal of it, he was cool with it and so children were not pressured to stick with it in order to save face. Like chicken pox pimples, it fell off by itself.

Of course I'd be very curious about what they like about religion and talk about that. Is it something that I am missing?
Anyway, now that I have adopted a moral philosophy to my life (not this empirical Darwinian monkey mutual back-scratching stuff, but actual moral philosophy de Molyneux), I feel my life as deeply meaningful and I feel reverence for human capacity for goodness. I think this is something that lots of atheists are missing and I would welcome if my children searched for something like that as well.
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12-03-2014, 05:00 PM
RE: What if your own children became religious?
Of my three, who are now grown, we have gone through a bazillion different phases. They are adults...it's up and to 'em how to live and what to believe.

Two are atheist...one is wishy, washy with nearly everything. She is still trying on all sorts of things to figure out what fits. She doesn't really believe but would like to.

We have done lesbian, punk, jock, druggie, heavy metal rocker, gangsta, the list goes on and on. When it comes right down to it, they are pretty responsible as far as kids and jobs go and all three are willing to help people when they can.

Not my job to agree or disagree with their choices, I just gave them free rein to try on lots of stuff when they were growing up.

Bottom line is that they are my kids, for better or worse. I didn't and don't push my beliefs or non-beliefs on them.

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12-03-2014, 05:07 PM (This post was last modified: 12-03-2014 05:24 PM by Revenant77x.)
RE: What if your own children became religious?
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12-03-2014, 05:10 PM
RE: What if your own children became religious?
GTFO you delusional freak.

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12-03-2014, 05:12 PM (This post was last modified: 12-03-2014 05:31 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: What if your own children became religious?
(12-03-2014 11:44 AM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  How would you react?

"The fuck you telling me for? I should give a shit why? How many times I told you 'You are responsible for your own metaphysics.' Remember that dude I told you about who stitched Tao, The Absurd and Gwyneth Paltrow into some sorta post-existentialist Frankenstein's monster? Is what you got to say more interesting than that? No? ... Can I get back to my crossword puzzle now?" Drinking Beverage

Yeah, never got a "Greatest Dad Ever" mug or t-shirt for Christmas.

As it was in the beginning is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.
And I will show you something different from either
Your shadow at morning striding behind you
Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you;
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
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12-03-2014, 05:16 PM
RE: What if your own children became religious?
I certainly wouldn't be thrilled.
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12-03-2014, 05:18 PM
RE: What if your own children became religious?
(12-03-2014 05:16 PM)Hobbitgirl Wrote:  I certainly wouldn't be thrilled.

Ah, so you'll force your views and lack of evidence onto your children. I never expected that! Smile

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12-03-2014, 05:21 PM
RE: What if your own children became religious?
(12-03-2014 05:18 PM)Miss Meng Wrote:  
(12-03-2014 05:16 PM)Hobbitgirl Wrote:  I certainly wouldn't be thrilled.

Ah, so you'll force your views and lack of evidence onto your children. I never expected that! Smile

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Based on your close personal relationship with Hobbitgirl, I assume.

What a fucking fraud.

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12-03-2014, 05:24 PM
RE: What if your own children became religious?
(12-03-2014 05:18 PM)Miss Meng Wrote:  
(12-03-2014 05:16 PM)Hobbitgirl Wrote:  I certainly wouldn't be thrilled.

Ah, so you'll force your views and lack of evidence onto your children. I never expected that! Smile

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Yes. Ill pester them and annoy them and teach them not to think for themselves (or at all) Then they'll be JUST like you. What a dream.
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