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13-12-2015, 02:54 PM
RE: What information made you leave religion?
I'm a little like Banjo. I didn't have any religious upbringing and I'm very thankful to my parents for that. But when I finally read the Bible in college it was a real stunner. God is an evil son of a bitch. And then there's the New Testament....hahahaha....what struck me immediately is the funny bit where Jesus goes out into the desert for 40 days and night and converses with the Satan and I kept wondering.....who the hell wrote all this shit down? Hummmm. Sounds like some major storytelling to me. And then when I read that the gospels weren't written by eyewitnesses that did it for me. Bunch of wishful thinking nonsense.

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13-12-2015, 03:29 PM
What information made you leave religion?
I was raised Catholic, and for me it was the inability of anyone to answer questions. Catholics are good for pointing fingers and such, but they can't or won't give an iota of criticism to their own religion.

The priest I knew most of my life would not answer questions, even me being an altar boy. (He hated kids, which is surprising.) When I asked questions, I was told to stop asking questions.

Then when I was part of another flavor of Christianity, they were even worse in many respects.

So then when I tried to study what I should actually believe and kept lengthy journals, I realized how many contradictions and holes there were.

It all fell apart when I looked behind the curtain.
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13-12-2015, 10:27 PM
RE: What information made you leave religion?
(13-12-2015 03:29 PM)Clockwork Wrote:  It all fell apart when I looked behind the curtain.


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13-12-2015, 10:48 PM
RE: What information made you leave religion?
Learning about Apollonius of Tyana, that was the start for me.

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13-12-2015, 11:11 PM
RE: What information made you leave religion?
(13-12-2015 10:48 PM)cactus Wrote:  Learning about Apollonius of Tyana, that was the start for me.

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16-12-2015, 01:16 PM
RE: What information made you leave religion?
What made me religion and what made me leave the faith were two different happenings.

Short Story: I left Religion because of boredom, and distance.
I left faith because information, compare and contrast, Tom Cruise and a woman.

Long Story: I identified myself as a Catholic till about 21-24. I stopped going to church at around 19-21. My mother gave me a choice if I wanted to continue going once I made it threw the 7 sacraments of Confirmation. I chose not to, and i felt guilty, but with College I used my time for study and party's. Around that time I started really questioning what I believed.

I meet people that were outside my bubble of reality in my home town. Different faiths, thoughts and perspectives. I would present questions to people, and usually act as the voice of opposition to see their views to see how they reacted, or maybe they had information that I missed out on. Most of the time they went just to "you need faith."

After college I moved back in with my parents. Religion was never a huge thing for us. But thoughts still remained if my thoughts on god were true. I prayed often, and would talk as if God was listening, looking for signs that he was. I began to wonder what other faiths where like. And started looking at them and comparing them to the one I grew up with. At that time Tom Cruise was in the news all the time talking about Scientology. So I looked into it. The crazy shit I found I could not believe that anyone would fall for that.

I pulled up files to read on all the dark back story's that their church had done I started watching XenuTV. The zealots that would come after the host. It made me start to think of people that I knew that acted that way. I started look at Cults how people could be fooled to believe in something that seemed outrageous. I the started looking into the big dogs Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and finally Christianity. Seeing if their angel compared with facts that I've accumulated that I could diffidently prove. I found street debates and feel upon this crazy guy that looked like a bicker. Aroanra Which bleed me into the Amazing Atheist, and The Thinking Atheist, Dawkins, Hitchens. Amazing Randy and numorous others.
My faith in god was shaken but not removed.
I completely lost my faith over all things a woman.

I had been single the majority of my life. My praied I did every night since i hit puberty was that I would have a relationship with someone. I wanted sex, but the deeper part of it was I wanted a companion. I would pray before I meet a girl hoping she would be the one. They would always end the same way, the same words. "You wouldn't want to date me." Or none at all. Just complete distance.

I started talking with this girl on-line. We seemed to be of the one mind, we agreed on everything, politics, religious views, personal feelings. The only draw back was she lived in another state, that she never wanted to tell me. I also was never shown a image. I had a web cam and she could see me but she never showed her. We talked for 8 months and she would even tell me what she looked like. She would always have an excuse. My friends where worried for me because I would spend all my time on the computer talking to her. We told each other how much we loved one another, but I couldn't understand why she didn't want to show me her face. I had grown a mustache for a costume I was wearing for Halloween she liked it. But after Halloween was over i shaved it off. She was outraged. To the point she stopped talking to me. I was heart broken. It made me think about the days I wasted, that I thought she was the answers to my prayers. I praised to god why have you not been their for me? What have I done that would not make you help me in this you know how long, and how faithful I've been. Why haven't you been there?...because your not there." It hit me like a ton of bricks. I couldn't believe how I didn't put it together before. I never had this praied answered, because there was nothing there to answer it.

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16-12-2015, 02:11 PM
RE: What information made you leave religion?
(13-12-2015 01:25 PM)musicharmony87 Wrote:  I'm wondering what everyone learned when they left their faith. What was the final hurdle for you?

For me it was was when I started learning about the evolution. And the fact that he (Allah) never gave me a pony, what kind of monster would deny a pony to a little girl who prayed day and night for one? Logic... Drinking Beverage

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16-12-2015, 02:13 PM
RE: What information made you leave religion?
The beginning of the end for my religious beliefs was when I first learned about the scientific method in my biology classes back in highschool. I was in complete awe when I discovered with what kind of rigor the people that developed all the amazing technology I use every day test their ideas and hypotheses. I got excited about the prospect of putting my religious beliefs under the same kind of scrutiny and it didn't take long for me to realize that none of them would hold up because I couldn't even figure out a way to put them to the test. Carl Sagan's phrase about extraordinary claims requiring extraordinary evidence resonated deeply with me at that time and it still does. Smartass

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16-12-2015, 02:33 PM
RE: What information made you leave religion?
I read the bible.

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16-12-2015, 02:52 PM
RE: What information made you leave religion?
For me it went the other way - it's not as if some fact or scientific knowledge caused me to "lose my faith," as many believers assert must have happened to me. It was the other way around, I had a personal awakening in my adolescence, realized I had never REALLY believed in the fairy tale, then suddenly a fact-based understanding of the material universe with no requirement for a divine architect or overseer made SO MUCH SENSE, I never thought twice about going back to the Goddidit Theorem.
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